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i.e. I want Trump to keep doing what he is doing, but I think an actual Trump presidency could be a catastrophe. Follow the story in the link to get the context from which the "strong man" emerges. It could be VERY bad in the end.

It is as if Obama has set us up for just such a man.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-05/road-serfdom-cartoonshttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-05/road-serfdom-cartoons

1 posted on 08/29/2015 9:18:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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I say give him a chance. He might just turn out to be a smart and effective president. If he decides to become a strongman, then he can expect to be dealt with.


45 posted on 08/29/2015 9:46:29 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but comSUrfmunists just ran for office)
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I think Trump has actually has a desire to make America great again.
Everyone can see the destruction that unchecked inundation by illegal aliens is doing to to this country, but both parties are committed to continuing that.
Somebody has to stop them.
If that is all we get from Trump, that is enough for me.
I know he is not a conservative, but he seems to have found his way to some pretty conservative positions, the exact opposite of the ones calling themselves conservative when they back amnesty, commie-core and the like.

I will vote for Hildabeast before I will vote for ¡Yeb!


47 posted on 08/29/2015 9:46:45 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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Here is what came to me a few weeks ago.

Obama pushed the political pendulum so far to the left that we could either get a Trump, Cruz (or a combination of either) to move it back safely to sane constitutional government, or we will likely end up with a Pinochet that will ram it all the way to the other end and nail it to the wall.

Trump has a gruff personality, but he isnt a danger of becoming a dictator, as unlike a CEO, you have checks and balances out the wazoo in DC. And unlike Obama, the other side will use every one of them.


52 posted on 08/29/2015 9:48:10 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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"No, I am the national strong man."

53 posted on 08/29/2015 9:48:37 AM PDT by matt1234 (Note to GOPe lurkers: I and thousands like me will NEVER vote for Jeb Bush)
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So far, Trump is the only person beating the media and upsetting the elites.

It's the best thing that's happened in politics since we woke up the morning of November 9, 1994.

56 posted on 08/29/2015 9:49:08 AM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival.)
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I can’t get to the cartoon so I don’t know what you are implying.

We already have a guy who runs roughshod over the constitution. We already have a guy who issues decrees which are rubber-stamped by a pantomime congress.

We already have a pantomime congress which is afraid to confront the press, afraid to confront the least public criticism, afraid to confront the party bosses, afraid to even try to fulfill their promises. We already have a banana republic, albeit with high-speed internet and smart phones.

Out of all of the people running, several are owned outright by the same people who own Obama. Most of the rest are afraid to go on the attack except against other Repubs. There are only a couple that I trust to do what they say they will do and that would be Cruz, and a couple of the governors. Trump? Trump is not a philosopher and his opinions are not philosophically rigorous. So he worries me. But he fights. And he doesn’t care if the press doesn’t like him. The moment he starts apologizing and backing down on anything is the moment when he loses his mojo. I think he knows that. But totalitarian? Don’t be silly. Thats who we have now. Thats Clinton... (remember the list of dead people a mile long?...)

He is the lightning rod. Before he was on the scene, all the stupid attacks were on Cruz. Now that Trump has stepped forward they are all directed at him, but if he falls, the attacks will shift to whoever is next in line. And if he’s a Repub, the nazi innuendos will start again no matter who we run.


61 posted on 08/29/2015 9:52:46 AM PDT by marron
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Okay so we have a potential Clinton, Obama as dictator or Trump. I take Trump.


63 posted on 08/29/2015 9:53:39 AM PDT by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!!)
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In my estimation, Trump is no where Strong Man enough.

We need a Pinochet to correctly deal with the leftists in this country.

67 posted on 08/29/2015 9:56:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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Right now I will take Trump warts (and there are several, and all.

If the GOPe and media can take down Trump there is not one other conservative or moderate even that can stand up to them.


70 posted on 08/29/2015 9:57:17 AM PDT by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!!)
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In life everything after ‘’but’’ is bs.


84 posted on 08/29/2015 10:05:12 AM PDT by jmacusa
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Trump is not only an egomaniac, he’s a megalomaniac.

Take away his populist rants on immigration, China and WashDC meddling and you have another big government type who simply wants to be in charge. Trump is not about limiting the size of the federal bureaucracy, he just wants to run it his way.


94 posted on 08/29/2015 10:13:38 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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Agreed. I would have thought this whole Trump thing would have settled down by now, but I guess reality hasn’t set in, yet.


99 posted on 08/29/2015 10:17:59 AM PDT by llmc1
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Trump is not a conservative in the sense that he will need no tweeking. But he is smart enough to realize that conservatism is the best system and become a strong conservative.


105 posted on 08/29/2015 10:21:32 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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I don’t ‘like’ Donald Trump. I hate obnoxious over-confident blowhards. I do find Trump to be a useful idiot right now taking on the status quo. But keep in mind Trump has no track record as a politician and his statements are all over the place. He has said he likes single-payer health care and increased taxes and tariffs and actually supported Hillary Clinton. More recently he has made more conservative sounding statements but he is running for President as a Republican. Was he lying then or now? Trump is more of a populist. Who knows how a populist with no real idealogy would govern.

Ted Cruz is the only solid conservative running for President. I continue to support Cruz.


106 posted on 08/29/2015 10:21:47 AM PDT by plain talk
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Guess what those of us who support Trump/Cruz don’t really give _____ _____ about your personal problems.

Adios!


114 posted on 08/29/2015 10:27:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Trump, causes Beserk Trump Derangement Syndrome, aka, BTDS! Trump/Cruz 2016/2020! Then Cruz!)
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"Everything before 'but' is B.S." - Jim Quinn
132 posted on 08/29/2015 10:41:16 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Hunga Tonga-Hunga.)
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Regardless who patriots elect as president in 2016, remember that the incumbent presdent got into the Oval Office by reading teleprompters.


133 posted on 08/29/2015 10:41:56 AM PDT by Amendment10
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With Trump you get some important turn around action on executive orders and stuff done.
Granted there is no perfect candidate.
135 posted on 08/29/2015 10:42:54 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women)
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You are seriously suggesting that Trump is a fascist? I thought better of you.


148 posted on 08/29/2015 11:03:45 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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Contrast Obama’s life and accomplishments to Trumps.

His second term in office and we still have not seen his college records?
Has there every been a POTUS who hasn’t had summer jobs or who had such a mystery background.
He became a jr Senator i believe using dirty tactics. Didn’t vote while in the senate...then came out of nowhere to become the President of the US?
Then got reelected?
He has been in the minority on everything he has done while president and yet got almost everything he pushed?
The so called Republicans gave him token resistance but gave in every step of the way?
Really, i am not sure we are not in a dictatorship already?
We will know in a little over a year.

We all know Trumps background, maybe more than we would like to know, but it is there for all to see.
Trump can point to his accomplishments.
Now, how much will he be able to do as President. That is always the question. Even Cruz, who is a real constitutional scholar, will meet with resistence.

Will i can’t say i am not nervous about Trump. I am nervous about whoever the next President will be.


155 posted on 08/29/2015 11:19:58 AM PDT by Leep (Cut the crap!)
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