Posted on 10/17/2015 7:05:07 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
My two experiences with being pulled over.... Case 1... Cop pulled me over called me names and ridiculed me..... No ticket.... Case 2... Cop very nice ... Got ticket..... I prefer the case 1 model
Flashing your lights is an act of aggression?
“I don't understand how an innocent situation can escalate so much to end in the death of a harmless kid,” Guilford’s brother Aaron Guilford said . . .
Eh, beating the snot out of an armed police officer has been known to do that as shown in the famous case of Michael Brown.
Prosecutors called Guilford’s death a “tragedy” even as they announced they wouldn’t charge Frost in June. Guilford, whose autopsy showed he had smoked marijuana hours earlier, can be seen calling his girlfriend on his phone in the video. Frost later said he grew worried the teen was part of a militia movement and calling in other members to the scene, according to Lloyd’s report.
Two interesting points here. All of the marijuana advocates assure us that pot smoking does not lead to aggressive behavior, so the officer's face pounding injuries had to be self-inflicted. Plus his statement about the militia movement shows he was racially profiling the kid. Of course, that is OK since the kid is white and the department of justice issued warnings about militia movements.
As for your statement that some departments should train their officers to lift up their skirts and fight back whenever they're getting the butts handed to them, it is sexist and bigoted statement.
If they did that, there would be a gross imbalance of younger virile men on the police force and infringe on the rights of women and the horizontally challenged to hold those jobs. You talk as if public safety is more important than a fashionably balanced law enforcement department. Maybe you even belong to one of those right wing militia movements. :->
He tried to do something nice here, and for his efforts he got murdered by a government official.
I just watched the video. The kid was so stupid he would never have reached his 21st birthday. Somebody would have killed him for being a jerk.
He resisted arrest. He fought with the cop. The cop ended up shooting him.
I don’t think I have ever witnessed a stupider teenager before. Suicide by stupidity.
Yes. It appears he did fight back. In looking at the pictures of the Sergeant taken at the scene in the EMS (presumably) the kid pummeled him pretty bad. Lots of blood and some damage to the nose and mouth. That’s when the sergeant pulled his gun to stop it.
The sergeant should have recognized the lights were bad after two stops and let the third instance go and had it on the repair list for end of shift.
He was polite and procedural during the stop and didn’t seem to be confrontational, and the kid sounded to me almost like he was on something, but very cognizant of procedure/rights, etc., even if ill-advised.
At the point when the man says you are under arrest, that is the point when you stop the protesting. Further, even when tazed, he shouldn’t have attacked an armed officer.
It’s hard to say how this is going to play out, especially when this kid attacked the cop. Very unfortunate all around.
The time to interpret the law is not at the side of the road with a cop. You do that before the judge.
Tragic story
If the details released are true I wonder why the kid was not compliant with the cop at the onset? Answer the cop questions, then maybe it won’t escalate into aggression especially by a mentally unbalanced cop
For the record, I'm not making any anti-police comments, I love the police.....my comments are directed at Officer Frost and only Frost who went too far when he chose to kill an unarmed person.
You’re right. Best not to upset the man with the whip by protesting an unjust beating. Massa wouldn’t like it.
They gave them useless tazers and took away their batons. If the cop had a baton he could have beat some sense into the kid. As it stands now it's tazers or bullets. When the first line doesn't work, the second line comes into play.
It’s against the law to flash your brights to inform an oncoming driver that he forgot to turn them off?
Probably not, but it does give an officer an excuse to pull you over to find out why you did that and give a warning, or write a ticket if he can.
Who did the unjust beating? Kid got tazed because he wouldn’t comply and resisted. He was stupid.
Then the kid pummeled the cop - badly it looks like.
You can blame procedure, the system, a whole lot of things but this didn’t start out at the stop with the cop being confrontational, aggressive or anything like that except the lack of understanding what was wrong with HIS SUV lights.
Well said.
There are individuals who are addicted to the adrenalin rush. As a correctional officer, I worked with an officer who, during line-up at the beginning of our shift, would start huffing and puffing and making menacing faces. By the time we entered the dayroom to relieve the other shift, he was all hopped up on adrenalin. If we had any trouble, it would have been because of him.
The side of the road at night is no time or place to argue with a cop. Period.
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