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Family of unarmed Michigan teen fatally shot by officer in traffic stop over flashing car’s brights files wrongful death lawsuit

I had not heard about this until yesterday. If the kid was black, I know I would have heard about it.

1 posted on 10/17/2015 7:05:07 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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Apparently serfs are not to inform their betters that the knights of the realm left their brights on?


2 posted on 10/17/2015 7:07:13 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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I don't know enough about this to say for sure but offhand I'd say this cop is going down.

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3 posted on 10/17/2015 7:09:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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I only flash my brights once.

Then I figure the other driver is doing it purposely.

I simply switch to brights myself.


4 posted on 10/17/2015 7:10:47 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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Frost shot Guilford seven times after the teen knocked the officer down and pummeled him with punches to the face during the struggle in the snow Seriously? seven times? Instead of shooting practice some departments should train their officers to lift up their skirts and fight back whenever they're getting the butts handed to them.
5 posted on 10/17/2015 7:11:54 AM PDT by SteveinSATX (C'mon Cruz, Trump or Carson ...baby needs a new pair of shoes!)
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“Eaton County Prosecuting Attorney Douglas R. Lloyd declined to charge Frost in June. Frost shot Guilford seven times after the teen knocked the officer down and pummeled him with punches to the face during the struggle in the snow by the side of the road,...”

Obviously racism. He would never have been shot if he was white... Oh wait.


9 posted on 10/17/2015 7:15:00 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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I thought it has already been established in court that flashing your headlights to warn others of a cop’s presence is free speech. Unless we’re talking about something else here, like, if people were deliberately harassing the cop by shining their lights in his eyes.

That being said if you’re pulled over while driving you have to present your license if asked. It’s not an option. And you fight the cops in court not on the side of the road. Right or wrong you will not win if you go all physical on a cop.


11 posted on 10/17/2015 7:17:00 AM PDT by servo1969
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People usually flash lights to warn other drivers of a speed trap up ahead. Some cops get extremely angry at this.

Many years ago when I was in my 20s, I flashed my lights to warn of a speed trap and it turned out to be an unmarked cop car. He spun his car in a 180 and immediately pulled me over. His face was literally beet red and he was screaming and yelling at me that I was interfering in efforts to catch speeders. In my opinion, I was helping the cause by forcing people to slow down.

Anyway, he didn't even give me a ticket. But was he ever pissed about it.

12 posted on 10/17/2015 7:17:34 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (A businessman gets things done with own money. A politician takes money and gets nothing done.)
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Looks completely justified to me. A lawful order, as defined by the law, is any order that helps the officer effect his duties.

The young man had several opportunities to comply, but chose not to.


15 posted on 10/17/2015 7:19:56 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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The cop was wrong to allow the situation to get out of hand and even more wrong to kill that kid (like what happened to cops being able to use their fists instead of shooting people?).

But why are we getting dumbsh_t kids who mouth back cops and even worse, think they can fight them? I've seen lots of these louts out there and if they survive their 20s, it'd be a miracle. Where the heck are their parents?

This kid's parents are partially to blame!

16 posted on 10/17/2015 7:20:31 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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Deven Guilford was white, and was coming home from playing in a basketball game at his church (no kidding).

He tried to do something nice here, and for his efforts he got murdered by a government official.

25 posted on 10/17/2015 7:26:57 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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I just watched the video. The kid was so stupid he would never have reached his 21st birthday. Somebody would have killed him for being a jerk.

He resisted arrest. He fought with the cop. The cop ended up shooting him.

I don’t think I have ever witnessed a stupider teenager before. Suicide by stupidity.


26 posted on 10/17/2015 7:27:16 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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Tragic story

If the details released are true I wonder why the kid was not compliant with the cop at the onset? Answer the cop questions, then maybe it won’t escalate into aggression especially by a mentally unbalanced cop


29 posted on 10/17/2015 7:29:17 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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The kid needed only to comply with the officer. He would have gotten a ticket and been alive today. He could have defused the situation easily.

The side of the road at night is no time or place to argue with a cop. Period.

40 posted on 10/17/2015 7:36:26 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is simply majoritarianism. It is incompatible with real freedom.)
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Arrogant little prick high on marijuana who was uncooperative and assaulted the officer. All he had to do was comply. That was the last stupid decision he ever made.


44 posted on 10/17/2015 7:39:44 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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Eh. Kid on dope gets weird, beligerent, and attacks cop. Winds up dead.

I have the same amount of sympathy for him that I have for Michael Brown... none.


55 posted on 10/17/2015 7:45:58 AM PDT by greene66
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Sure looks to me like that cop before he brutally shot that poor teenager, beat the snot out of the kid’s fist. With his face.


57 posted on 10/17/2015 7:47:04 AM PDT by Tupelo (Honest men may go to Washington, but Honest men do not stay in Wahington.)
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Why didn’t the kid comply ?


67 posted on 10/17/2015 8:05:23 AM PDT by daku
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I'm so pissed !

I've taught my kids to turn lights on and off rather than use high low .... principally because as a retired big truck driver ... we are often gravely eyed at night and a high beam in our mirror can really hurt

Be that as it may ....

I watched the video, and the cop was looking for trouble

His fellow troopers should have a deadly blanket party and send a signal

We The People Of The United States no longer need "the law" to justify righteousness

Truth be known ..."the law" has nothing to do with righteousness, but everything to do with retaliating against the "wrong doers" of (in some ... many ... cases) ... invented infractions

Who decided 35 was a speed limit "
Why SHOULD I turn on my lights in a construction zone .... in the DAYTIME?

etc

75 posted on 10/17/2015 8:19:18 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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This kid, trayvon martin, michael brown...all high on pot, attack armed people, get shot... I see a pattern.


79 posted on 10/17/2015 8:24:04 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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The article says the boy was a teen but the picture shows him to be white.


80 posted on 10/17/2015 8:24:33 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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