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Can we have a serious, 4-way debate now? (Quinnipiac poll finds only four viable candidates.)
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us11042015_xsq33a.pdf ^ | Dangus

Posted on 11/04/2015 7:26:47 AM PST by dangus

Trump 24. Carson 23. Rubio 14. Cruz 13. Bush 4. Christie, Fiorina, Kasich 3.

Carson over Clinton by 10; Rubio by 5; Cruz by 3; Christie by 6. Trump loses by 3. Republicans insanely excited to win.

Details at source.

It's time for the RNC to step in and say, "enough 10 or 11-person circuses. Let's have a real debate." There are 4 candidates who got statistically significant leads over me, a random freeper. (Bush 4, Me 0 is certainly a valid lead, but not significant!)


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: carson; cruz; debates; elections; polls; rubio; trump
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1 posted on 11/04/2015 7:26:47 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

And let’s lose the kiddie debate. It just encourages no chance candidates to stay in a race they have zero chance of winning.


2 posted on 11/04/2015 7:29:20 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: cripplecreek

Correct me if I’m wrong, this is the first election in which there has been a kiddie table debate. It is a bad idea, it contributes nothing.


3 posted on 11/04/2015 7:32:13 AM PST by rdl6989
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To: dangus

What I find most interesting is that Ted Cruz is leading Clinton by 3% and most of America knows next to nothing about him other than that he is a pretty good debater.


4 posted on 11/04/2015 7:33:19 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: dangus
Amen to this!

I had understood early on, only those candidates polling at 10% and above would be on the stage but then Carly did good on the junior stage, so she was bumped up.

There is absolutely no sense at all having people whose poll numbers are 5% and below, anywhere near the main stage(except I know the establishment will demand Jebbie as part of the pack, no matter how low he goes!)

5 posted on 11/04/2015 7:35:42 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: dangus

Carson, while seemingly a very decent man with a wonderful life story, isn’t fit to run anything of this magnitude. Rubio is the same but without the very decent man - or the wonderful life story.

Just heard Ed Rollins on FOX say, after slobbering on about Rubio, that everyone will be happy when the schoolyard bully is put down. They are really going after Trump now and Trump is exactly what WTP and the USA needs.


6 posted on 11/04/2015 7:38:56 AM PST by Aria
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To: dangus

The big number that goes unnoticed.

The more or less interested in 2016 in comparison to previous races question - Republicans very interested, Dems not interested, blacks very uninterested.


7 posted on 11/04/2015 7:40:07 AM PST by struggle
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To: rdl6989

We all know how it would be if Bush, Kasich, and Christie were out front, they would be the only ones on the stage.


8 posted on 11/04/2015 7:44:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: dangus

Good idea, but it will not happen. IF narrowing it down keeps the GOP-E candidate off the stage, then don’t expect it to happen. If they can get their guy in the top 4, then that’s when hey will pull the trigger on lowering the number. Until then, expect to see all of the GOP-E candidates…even if they are polling at 1%


9 posted on 11/04/2015 7:45:05 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: rdl6989

Agreed, especially at this stage. The first time probably made sense to give that group a chance to rise. By now, there’s no chance any of them are contenders. Jindal in theory could if he moves up in Iowa, but with this field, it is highly unlikely. We need to shed Santorum, Gilmore, Pataki (if he’s still running, not sure), and probably Bush, Huck and Paul. Then do a couple more single debates with a large field before it winnows down.


10 posted on 11/04/2015 7:47:04 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: dangus

The Uniparty is desperate! They will do anything to eliminate Donald Trump. Pay close attention to the phrase, Independent voters are crossing over to vote for Trump.

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Minnesota Media Poll Shows Donald Trump on Top and Defeating Hillary, Promptly Deleted Their own Finding
(Posted on November 3, 2015)

by sundance

Media quickly deletes finding that Trump beats Hillary in MN ! Screen-Shot Added.

The operational arm of the DNC, or perhaps Senator Al Franken, must have been urgently dispatched to contact KTSP (ABC 5) News in Minnesota after they published results from their own sponsored SurveyUSA poll/survey…..

Why? Because they deleted the lead in paragraph shortly after posting it. Our discovery was accidental.

The KTSP(ABC5) survey findings show Donald Trump perceived to be the most likely nominee amid all of the survey respondents:

Trump thumbs up
Trump 26%
Carson 19%
Rubio 16%
Bush 9%
Fiorina 4%
Cruz 4%
Paul 3%
Huckabee 2%
Undecided 13%

However, the more damaging survey data was a result showing Donald Trump beats Hillary Clinton in a head-to-head match up. Specifically the article outlined how a large segment of Minnesota Democrats and Independent voters were “crossing over” to join a growing Donald Trump coalition.

That uncomfortable reality was most of the lead paragraph, and it was also promptly deleted within minutes of broadcast/publication. However, the web is forever. (cont.)

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http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/11/03/minnesota-media-poll-shows-donald-trump-on-top-and-defeating-hillary-outlet-promptly-deletes-their-own-findings/#more-107977


11 posted on 11/04/2015 7:48:03 AM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: dangus

Looks like the race is starting to narrow. Carson and Trump are leading, but conventional wisdom is that they will fade. Rubio and Cruz stand to benefit. Looks like Cruz is sitting in a pretty good position at this point, all things considered.

What do folks think of a 2-way race between Cruz and Rubio, a few months further on? How do you think that will play out in the primary?


12 posted on 11/04/2015 7:48:44 AM PST by Another Post-American (Jesus died for your sins.)
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To: cripplecreek

* And let’s lose the kiddie debate. It just encourages no chance candidates to stay in a race they have zero chance of winning. *

At this point, it’s time to throw out Bush


13 posted on 11/04/2015 7:50:33 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are those committed by illegal aliens)
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To: rdl6989

The purpose it SHOULD serve is to allow the debate sponsors to say, “You don’t belong at the main event” without causing the ugliness of the Alan Keyes fiascoes. But if they don’t raise the bar, what’s the point?


14 posted on 11/04/2015 7:51:02 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
I would like that also but money and time will do the filtering.

The Iowa caucus isn't until February 9th.

15 posted on 11/04/2015 7:54:01 AM PST by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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To: Another Post-American

I would HOPE that Cruz picks up the lions’ share of both Carson’s and Trump’s voters, with whom he seems to be closer on the issues. In reality, “Marco” sounds more Spanish than “Ted,” and therefore may get more of the people who like Carson because they believe he can broaden the Republican’s appeal beyond English-dominant white folk.

Cruz should’ve stuck with “Rafael.” “Raffi Cruz” probably would win him the youth vote.


16 posted on 11/04/2015 7:55:05 AM PST by dangus
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To: McGruff

So why are folks like Ron Paul still in the race?


17 posted on 11/04/2015 7:56:18 AM PST by dangus
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To: cripplecreek

I encourage them to stay in (though they probably will not win) they at least take up (even if only in their local media market back home) free media coverage that at least keeps a conservative agenda on the front page.


18 posted on 11/04/2015 8:02:32 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: NELSON111

They already have their guy in the top 4: It’s Rubio!


19 posted on 11/04/2015 8:03:40 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: Another Post-American

I’d prefer that it come down to Trump vs. Cruz.


20 posted on 11/04/2015 8:05:32 AM PST by JSDude1
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