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ATF Says Weapons Used in San Bernardino Shooting Were Illegal in California
PJ Media ^ | 12-04-2015 | Liz Sheld

Posted on 12/04/2015 3:51:24 AM PST by Michael van der Galien

More information about the San Bernardino massacre is trickling out as federal officials investigate details surrounding the attack on a county employee Christmas party. Many people, including myself, were curious about the firearms used since California has notoriously strict gun regulations. Reports of "automatic weapons" and even "semi-automatic assault-style weapons" seemed to be disconnected from California's almost uniform prohibition on such firearms.

Another reason the guns in question are important is that the left and its media handmaidens swiftly mobilized to beat the gun control drum...even before the shooters were permanently put out of business.

The media proudly reports that the firearms were purchased legally. They are trying to create the narrative that the current gun laws allowed this to happen. They want you to know "Hey, this was all legally done. We need more laws to stop this from happening again."

But not so fast. It maybe true that these guns were purchased legally, but they were not used legally and in fact, they were modified in violation of the California firearm laws says the ATF.

While they were originally sold legally, with magazine locking devices commonly known as bullet buttons, the rifles were subsequently altered in different ways to make them more powerful, according to Meredith Davis, a special agent with the ATF. The Smith & Wesson rifle was changed in an attempt to enable it fire in fully automatic mode, while the DPMS weapon was modified to use a large-capacity magazine, she said.

Those alterations made the weapons unlawful under California’s ban on assault weapons, which bans guns with magazines that can detach for quick reloading.

The state legally allows the sale and ownership of assault weapons that have fixed magazines.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; sanbernardino; secondamendment; terrorism
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1 posted on 12/04/2015 3:51:24 AM PST by Michael van der Galien
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To: Michael van der Galien

And the weapons used in jihad were illegal in France too, especially suicide vests.

News flash, it’s islam, period.


2 posted on 12/04/2015 3:53:15 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: Michael van der Galien

What’s the limit on pipe bombs in California?


3 posted on 12/04/2015 3:53:46 AM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: Monty22002

Instead of making the guns illegal, California should have made Muslims illegal.


4 posted on 12/04/2015 3:54:41 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Crazieman

The presstitutes and White House have already lost interest in the bomb factory these 2 and other Islamists were operating in that house.


5 posted on 12/04/2015 3:55:00 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Yet, the democrats believe MORE gun laws will prevent these crimes.


6 posted on 12/04/2015 3:55:01 AM PST by RandallFlagg (With the things that are about to come to light. People might just need a little old-fashioned.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Maybe they were PURCHASED legally, but they were USED illegally.


7 posted on 12/04/2015 3:55:18 AM PST by FrankR (You're only enslaved to the extent of the charity that you receive!)
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To: FrankR

They were legal in states other than California.


8 posted on 12/04/2015 3:56:44 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

“The state legally allows the sale and ownership of assault weapons that have fixed magazines.”

Are these throwaways after you empty the magazine once?


9 posted on 12/04/2015 4:04:20 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Monty22002
News flash, it's Islam, period.

Don't let up on this theme.

There is no Radical Islam.
There is just Islam.

10 posted on 12/04/2015 4:05:19 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Michael van der Galien

Riiiiiight, and California doesn’t have illegal invasion problem, either.


11 posted on 12/04/2015 4:09:13 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Mass Murder is illegal in California as well.


12 posted on 12/04/2015 4:09:17 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Crazieman

There’s a waiting limit on pipe bombs in California - unless the buyer/manufacturer is in a protected class. In that case, there’s no waiting limit and they don’t say anything to avoid being classified as a racist.


13 posted on 12/04/2015 4:12:41 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Illegal?! Those guys are going to be in sooo much trouble!


14 posted on 12/04/2015 4:14:16 AM PST by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: Flag_This

Gov. Moonbeam may even use harsh language......these guy’s are in big trouble. WTF


15 posted on 12/04/2015 4:18:27 AM PST by mastertex
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To: Michael van der Galien

What in the world is wrong with the left???? Do they seriously think terrorists are incapable of smuggling weapons into the USA even if we passed all sorts of laws outlawing every potential weapon from kitchen knives to iron pipes???? Law breakers break laws! I’m serious. The stupidity...it BURNS!


16 posted on 12/04/2015 4:23:21 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

And just who did the illegal modifications? Don’t think it was Bonnie and Clyde of Arabia. As previously reported, they had lot’s of help from both inside and outside the US. Of course, we could all just quote Hillary here: “What does it matter?”


17 posted on 12/04/2015 4:23:55 AM PST by Shark24
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>>The Smith & Wesson rifle was changed in an attempt to enable it fire in fully automatic mode,<<

I’m calling bullshit on this one . . . or at least pointing out that “ATTEMPT” is the operative word. As a certifiable gun nut with a fair amount of experience with AR type rifles, I seriously doubt this knucklehead managed to convert an AR-15 to automatic fire. It’s not as easy as the media would like you to believe. I’ve built a number of AR’s and I would not know how to convert one to full auto. But, I also wouldn’t try so there is that . . .


18 posted on 12/04/2015 4:30:28 AM PST by stranger and pilgrim
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To: RandallFlagg
Yet, the democrats believe MORE gun laws will prevent these crimes.

No they don't believe that for one second. What they believe is that the totalitarian police state that is their ultimate goal for the USA will not happen as long as citizens have access to effective means of self defense. So ANY excuse to beat the drum for more gun control is used.

If the pieces of filth such as 0 and his democratic accomplices believe guns are bad let them disarm the secret service, the police, and the innumerable armed federal agencies. Let the turd in the white hut go around without his armed guards. Never happen of course, because they think guns are good, but only in the hands of the government so as to better control our every action.

19 posted on 12/04/2015 4:30:58 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: meatloaf
“The state legally allows the sale and ownership of assault weapons that have fixed magazines.”

If they have fixed magazines, then they are not assault weapons.

20 posted on 12/04/2015 4:34:17 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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