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Conservatives Need To Avoid The Libertarian Trap
Townhall.com ^ | January 3, 2016 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 01/03/2016 5:29:11 AM PST by Kaslin

There's a reason liberals have been so successful in advancing their agenda in the past few decades. It's not just electoral victories they've played a part, and it's easier to make things happen if you win elections. But the main factor in their victories is one thing we conservatives are losing sight of: patience.

In the time of Twitter breaking news, Tinder, microwaves, On Demand, etc., patience is as dead as detectives wearing Fedoras and calling people "Mac." But it's key in politics, and conservatives have forgotten that.

Ronald Reagan the real man, not the myth created with his name understood the importance of patience. He almost won the GOP nomination in 1976 but lost to President Gerald Ford.

Although Ford was no conservative, Reagan didn't turn on him. He supported him. When Ford lost, that opened the door to Reagan's victory four years later. Had Reagan refused to support Ford, or actively criticized Ford and hurt him in the 1976 election, there's a chance 1980 would've turned out differently.

Even as president, Reagan understood the importance of patience. His victories in dealing with Congress and the Soviet Union (not much of a difference there, in many respects) didn't come immediately. Incrementalism was a key weapon you take what you can get and keep fighting for the rest. What Reagan didn't do was throw up his hands when he didn't get all he wanted, leaving small victories on the table because total victory wasn't, at that moment, obtainable.

Far too many conservatives have forgotten that political victories take time, even if the loss they're trying to reverse is still fresh.

Libertarians are famously inpatient. It's why, outside of a few court victories, they are mostly irrelevant. I take no pleasure in saying this; the country would be much better off if we were significantly more libertarian. But when there's a political fight to be had, they sit on the sidelines criticizing both sides rather than putting their weight behind the side moving the ball in the direction they want to go.

The purity of libertarians is to be admired, at least in the sense of ideals. The practical implementation of purity as a guide for conducting politics is not. Far too many oppose actions which would move the country in the direction they want because it doesn't go far enough. They want it all, and they want it now and anything short of that is a sell-out.

Many conservatives have adopted this attitude.

Liberals have been successful because they've adopted the opposite stance. For generations, liberals have sought to seize control over health care in the United States. They haven't yet, but every move they're made on health care has pushed them closer to that goal.

Medicare covers the elderly and disabled; Medicaid covers the poor. Liberals have been fighting to lower the age of Medicare eligibility for decades, but they've, thankfully, been blocked. They've also been fighting to raise the income eligibility for Medicaid for decades, and they've been winning. This left a shrinking middle uncovered by government insurance. Obamacare is changing that.

For all the problems with Obamacare, it's serving its purpose of crowding out private coverage. It was never designed to be the endgame; it’s an increment. It moves the country closer to a government takeover of health care. That was its purpose; that is their plan. And they waited decades for it.

Conservatives, on the other hand, don't have that kind of patience. With every new electoral victory, they expect some massive shift in the country immediately, if not sooner.

Sadly, much of liberalism is engrained in our laws, our courts and our culture, so it will take time to uncouple it.

Real conservatives are a small percentage of the Republican Party and Republicans in Congress. Yet many conservatives, particularly in media, think each electoral victory immediately should bring about massive conservative change. When that doesn''t happen, they attack with a ferocity they don't reserve even for liberals.

No single election is going to turn the tide back toward constitutionally limited government; no one person elected to office will be as pure as the wind-driven snow in their conservatism. It's going to be a long slog; there are going to be losses. Losing a battle does not constitute losing a war. But quitting does.

There never will be a "silver bullet" election or candidate; that's impossible. Many times you have to stop getting worse before you start getting better.

In addition to electoral victories, the courts have to change that will take time. The culture of dependency has to change that will take time.

For all their shunning of Christianity, Democrats have the patience of Job when it comes to their agenda. Republicans, on the other hand, are Veruca Salt. They want a Golden Goose and they want it NOW!

Veruca ended up going down the garbage chute. If conservatives don't regain some strategic patience, they'll suffer the same fate. And the country won't be far behind.


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KEYWORDS: conservatives; elections; liberals; libertarian
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To: TBP
Actually what he said was this:

A Conservative is a fellow who is standing athwart history yelling 'Stop!'

Brainy Quote
Also in page 4
Nothing here either

41 posted on 01/03/2016 1:01:26 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

He said both.


42 posted on 01/03/2016 1:03:54 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

Than prove it to me. I checked several links and nothing showed. There are quotes by him about liberals but none on libertarians


43 posted on 01/03/2016 1:12:45 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
I believe it's in Quotations from Chairman Bill, but I'll double check that.
44 posted on 01/03/2016 1:15:22 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: x

I can’t speak to a counterargument unless the argument I was inquiring about is established.

And political changes towards the left take no time whatsoever when the RINO wing of the Uniparty supports them in a “bipartisan” manner.


45 posted on 01/03/2016 1:31:06 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
I can't speak to a counterargument unless the argument I was inquiring about is established.

I figured you were talking about the "incremental argument" because you thought you had something to disprove it, that is, a counterargument or counter-theory to explain how changes happen. But if you don't you don't. Which leaves me wondering why you brought it up to begin with.

And political changes towards the left take no time whatsoever when the RINO wing of the Uniparty supports them in a "bipartisan" manner.

Really? The left has been talking about government health care for decades. That certainly didn't happen overnight, nor did Republicans support it. Gun control, global warming, likewise. Somebody's been pushing that stuff for decades and it's going through now without Republican support.

46 posted on 01/03/2016 1:41:42 PM PST by x
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To: TBP

Here is no less a conservative than President Ronald Reagan saying the same thing (essentially):

www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/conservatism

“If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.”

The difference is that conservatives are also the supporters of the permanent things, to use Russell Kirk’s phrase, the order and tradition that have made society function. The conservative vision is ordered liberty — a government that firmly secures our liberty and does little else.


47 posted on 01/03/2016 1:45:14 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: x

Obamacare was pushed through by using the so-called “nuclear option”, yes? No GOP minority even thought to shut the government down to stop the vote from happening. And as soon as it gets passed, it’s suddenly “the law of the land” by the GOP establishment and they unquestionably fully fund it. Quite sudden indeed and quite “bipartisan”.

And I was asking a question. Getting an answer in the form of another question can be an answer and it also cannot be an answer depending on its contents.


48 posted on 01/03/2016 1:45:55 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: x
Unquestionably = unquestioningly
49 posted on 01/03/2016 1:47:10 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Kaslin

Here is no less a conservative than President Ronald Reagan saying the same thing (essentially):

www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/conservatism

“If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.”

The difference is that conservatives are also the supporters of the permanent things, to use Russell Kirk’s phrase, the order and tradition that have made society function. The conservative vision is ordered liberty — a government that firmly secures our liberty and does little else.


50 posted on 01/03/2016 2:47:25 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kaslin

Here are a couple of interesting articles on libertarianism that might be pertinent to this discussion:

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-right-wing-libertarianism-and-left-wing-libertarianism

www.laissez-fairerepublic.com/LIBERTAR.htm


51 posted on 01/03/2016 2:48:56 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

http://www.laissez-fairerepublic.com/LIBERTAR.htm


52 posted on 01/03/2016 2:50:20 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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