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To: Gaffer
And you think Ted Cruz would?

No Republican is going to win in NY. But part of the rationale for Trump's campaign is the assertion that he's going to put deep blue states like NY, MA, CT, etc. into play. That's nonsense.

Trump is the weakest general election candidate we could field. The Trumpkins will differ, of course, on the theory that the polls will magically shift when Donald starts "catering" to a general election audience. That he will do so by throwing the conservative base under the bus goes without saying.

10 posted on 04/22/2016 7:09:46 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: sphinx
No Republican is going to win in NY.

George Pataki agrees.

13 posted on 04/22/2016 7:13:16 AM PDT by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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To: sphinx

Hillary will have to spend a lot of money in NY to win, and Trump actually likes New York. Hillary is uncomfortable outside of Washington.


20 posted on 04/22/2016 7:16:50 AM PDT by steve8714 (Why is Romney pushing me to Trump?)
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To: sphinx

“Trump is the weakest general election candidate we could field”

I remember when all the “experts” said the exact same thing about Ronald Reagan.

The Republican establishment at the time and the “experts” said Reagan was a sure loser who would lose in a landslide and bring about the end of the Republican Party. Reagan trailed Carter by over 30 points in the polls at the time.

The establishment ran moderate Republican John Anderson as a third party candidate.

Reagan won in a landslide.


23 posted on 04/22/2016 7:17:43 AM PDT by detective
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To: sphinx

The automatic assumption that Cruz would pick up the Solid South that he lost convincingly is fully nonsense, too.

Indeed, a recent Reuters/IPSOS poll showed fully 1/3 of the Trump supporters wouldn’t vote for him. I’m not in that 1/3, but you rosy cheeked Cruz supporters are wearing thin. Particularly with this “rules are rules” stuff in CO and UT and everywhere else no vote is held. Just because Ted could engineer a technical win doesn’t mean all manna goes to him afterward. People are tired of this politician crap. And, Ted has shown he’s down with the best of them.

Yes, rules are rules and we all understand we need to live and work under the best man-made rules available in this country - the US Constitution. However, the framers of the Constitution expected that just and honorable men and women would execute its assurances. That has clearly not been the case and our Constitution has been used against us by liberals ever since it was signed. Even now the politicians who profess allegiance to it on our own side are stretching, pulling, twisting its dictates to other derived tenets (e.g., state political party rules) to their own personal benefit.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda’s about who gets what when you kill off Trump’s nomination won’t hold like you think they will. Do that at your own risk.

Further, I will tell you this. I never call Cruz Supporters anything other than that. Yet Cruz supporters here are enamored of cute little names like “Trumpkins” and much works. Keep it up and see what happens in November.


25 posted on 04/22/2016 7:22:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: sphinx

you may be right. but if you are right re: Trump, then obviously it’s all hilary. Which is what I have maintained all along. hilary is essentially unstoppable.

Because Cruz has a 0% chance in the GE. And Kasich’s chance is less than that.

Which sort of puts all the bickering here in a new light doesn’t it? If it’s going to be hilary no matter what...what’s all the commotion about?

As I see it....I think Trump maybe has a little bit of a chance b/c his demographics are not normal Republican. The democrat playbook will not be effective. He changes everything on the GOP side, and on the dem side. Will it work? IDK...probably not.

But with Cruz, all that happens is that he gets shellacked and the GOPe gets even more empowered, and will say forever, that they gave us a conservative and he got trounced.

If Trump loses, we can still say, credibly...but what if we finally nominate a conservative?

If Trump wins....then hilary loses, the GOPe loses, and hopefully he does something about the border.


31 posted on 04/22/2016 7:31:33 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: sphinx
Trump is the weakest general election candidate we could field.

More sophistry. So the leading candidate who has won the most votes by 2.5 million, the most states (23), and the most delegates is the weakest candidate we can field. Turnout records are being set for every state race. Viewership for the Rep debates has gone up exponentially. More new voters are attracted to Trump. He is drawing huge, enthusiastic crowds.

If you go by the polls, I guess Kasich or Rubio should be the GOP nominee. They do the best against Hillary. And on the Dem side, Bernie is beating the Reps worse than Hillary is. Funny thing is that the Dem establishment is not calling for Bernie to be the nominee.

Until both parties have their nominees, these polls are worthless. I will say that Trump puts FL, NH. NV, OH, MI, and PA into play for the Reps. His primary victory in FL was especially huuuge.

32 posted on 04/22/2016 7:32:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: sphinx

“Trump is the weakest general election candidate we could field. “

So, you think someone else that can’t beat Trump with Republicans can do better when running with Republicans and Democrats in the general? Are you really that retarded??


59 posted on 04/22/2016 8:03:51 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: sphinx

I think Trump is getting a wee bit over-confident because we now see him gradually taking more liberal positions.

He’s throwing them out there to test reaction and then pulling back if the reaction is too negative.

An example is his remarks on the NC bathroom bill. At first, he was critical and dismissive of the bill, but the next day, he moved smoothly back into declaring it a mistake but a states rights issue.

I don’t know how far left Trump will have to move before the realization sets in on the trumpers.


127 posted on 04/23/2016 8:26:17 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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