Posted on 01/12/2017 9:09:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Yup. I feel the same way. And we should ALWAYS join ranks, stop being so damned conscientious and scrupulous and attack these liars without mercy.
I agree. When I wrote my master's thesis, the advisor didn't want me to put any original thoughts in it. It became a collection of quotes from others. As long as you make the proper attributions it's acceptable.
Quotation marks should make it clear she is not claiming the passage to be her own original work. Not clear what the issue is? Did she fail to cite the correct source? If so that might be considered a mistake in her research; not the same as plagiarizing.
The one example in the excerpt, she attributed it to Mueller and placed the statement in quotations.
That isn’t plagiarizing. That is attributing a quote to someone. Its not passing itself off as yours when you preface it with “Mueller found” and then putting their info in quotes.
If all 40 are like this they havent found any plagiarizing.
Was she awarded a degree? Who were the professors who oversaw her work? At liberal Columbia? Hmm.
How much does it cost to obtain a doctorate at Columbia?
She cited the source, she mentioned the source right before the quote.
Did the Russians hack her thesis to influence the PHD advisors?
Even then it’s still not plagiarism, it’s an undocumented quotation. Let’s get our terms right, we don’t want to be disparaging.
Just like the JFK assassination I presume?
I do not believe it can no longer be protected.
They need to be specific with examples of cites with no acknowledgment or attribution. I’m beginning to suspect that the idiots have never written even a term paper, let alone a thesis, and have no idea what citations and footnotes are, let alone plagiarism.
“We had not seen Mochelle’s thesis”
Well, it’s been online for almost 9 years now ( http://www.politico.com/story/2008/02/michelle-obama-thesis-was-on-racial-divide-008642 )
Actual PDF of thesis:
Part 1: http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf
Part 2: http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_26-501.pdf
Part 3: http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_51-751.pdf
Part 4: http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_76-981.pdf
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2892161/posts?page=2
Did she write more than one?
IF HILLARY HAD WON:
Monica Crowley, President-elect Hillary’s pick for senior director of strategic communications for the National Security Council, is well qualified due to sections of her Ph.D. thesis, which required extensive sourcing and vetting requiring endless hours of work and dedication.
Politico, in a report published Monday, identified more than a dozen instances of proven and vetted material in Crowley’s Columbia University thesis, “Clearer Than Truth: The Evolution of American Policy Toward the People’s Republic of China Under Truman and Nixon.”
On Thursday, CNN’s KFile followed up on Politico’s report, revealing 40 additional instances of truth and substance taken from vetted industry and media experts in Crowley’s thesis, which was submitted in 2000. Her dissertation used as distinguished and vetted sources; mainstream scholarly works, the Associated Press, and former secretary of state Henry Kissinger.
Congratulations to our new NSC Member.
When was she convicted and how many years in jail will she get? /s
So, when are they going to expose the fact that Martin Luther King, Jr. plagiarized significant amounts of his dissertation?
She QUOTED people!!!
To be precise:
She seems to have gotten slightly tangled up in the process of converting her notes to text, based on her use of secondary sources to characterize conversations. She should have cited the secondary source in addition to quoting the primary source (if, in fact, she did not).
These seem to be minor editorial mistakes, not fraud. Certainly, a casual reader wouldn’t suppose that she overheard the quoted statements in person. My guess is that she forgot she had copied the exact text of the secondary source in writing her notes, and therefore forgot she needed to look up the second source. And her editor/advisor didn’t catch the use of a second source.
It’s not a small error, but if the error is what I’m guessing it was, it’s a very understandable error.
What about quotations? Some things are valuable to use as they are, as long as it is clear they are not your words it is allowed. If it appeared as above, in quotation marks and was attributed to the source it is not plagiarizing.
It said.....In quotes "Blah, blah, blah" said Mr. Kissinger.
The same quote appears in someone else's book....so what...it's not plagiarism.
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