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After Mueller, Trump Critics Worry: Maybe There’s No Scandal
The American Interest ^ | May 18, 2017 | Jason Willick

Posted on 05/19/2017 9:59:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Eli Lake is right: The DOJ’s appointment of widely-respected former prosecutor Robert Mueller to lead the special inquiry into the Trump campaign’s potential collusion with Russia is a reprieve for a Trump Administration in crisis—a reprieve that it will almost certainly squander, but a reprieve nonetheless.

How do we know? Because the responses from Trump’s most dogged critics on the Russia question betray a kind of anxiety about the Mueller appointment—an anxiety that the no-nonsense law enforcement wise man will lower the temperature in Washington without actually uncovering enough damaging material to bring down the President.

Take, for example, Josh Marshall declaring that while he has confidence in Mueller to identify and expose any criminal activities undertaken by Trump or his associates, he won’t be able to prosecute the real Trump-Russia wrongdoing: a labyrinthian “conspiracy” which may not even involve any illegal behavior.

It is critical to understand that the most important details we need to know about the Russian disruption campaign and the Trump campaign’s possible collusion with it may not be crimes. Indeed, I would say that the crimes we’re likely to discover will likely be incidental or secondary to the broader actions and activities we’re trying to uncover. Just hypothetically, what if Russia had a disruption campaign, Trump campaign officials gave winks and nods to nudge it forward but violated no laws? That’s hard to figure but by no means impossible. (Our criminal laws are not really designed for this set of facts.) The simple point is that the most important ‘bad acts’ may well not be crimes. That means not only is no one punished but far, far more important, we would never know what happened.

And here’s David Frum in the Atlantic making a similar objection:

The special counsel will investigate whether people in the Trump campaign violated any laws when they gleefully leveraged the fruits of Russian espionage to advance their campaign.

By contrast, what happened in plain sight—cheering rather than condemning a Russian attack on American democracy—will be treated as a non-issue, because it was not criminal, merely anti-democratic and disloyal.

Since the summer before the election, Trump’s critics have been suggesting or sometimes stating outright that Russia is involved with a criminal conspiracy that reaches to the highest levels of Trump’s inner circle. But now that an unimpeachable bulldog prosecutor has been named to probe these very allegations, the critics seem to be trying to move the goalposts, saying that the real problem isn’t criminality, but the sleaze and outlandish behavior of the Trump campaign more generally—behavior that was already obvious to voters when they went to the polls in 2016, and will be even more obvious when they go to the polls in 2018.

Trump’s outrageous and indefensible conduct around the Russia investigation—his firing of Comey to attempt to quash the inquiry, along with the subsequent allegations that he demanded Comey’s loyalty early on and leaned on him to drop the investigation of Mike Flynn—cries out for a special counsel, and Mueller, by all accounts, is a consummate choice. Any wrongdoing related to the Trump campaign, from the President himself to bottom-feeders like Carter Page, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

But the Trump-Russia hounds now seem to be realizing the limits of the scandal they have been pursuing—yes, maybe someone like Manafort will go down for money-laundering, and yes, Trump had shady deals with Russian banks as a real estate tycoon in the 1990s. But this is simply not as big of a scandal as they would like it to be.

Mueller seems well-equipped to do what the country sorely needs right now: Determine if there was criminal collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, and hold any wrongdoers accountable. He is not, however, equipped to do what Trump’s most relentless critics seem to want: Launch a wide-ranging and essentially political investigation into Donald Trump and his associates with the aim not of bringing the matter to a resolution, but of creating a steady stream of media frenzies that paralyzes an administration they loathe.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; hillary; media; mueller; nevertrump; russia; trump
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1 posted on 05/19/2017 9:59:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, who would have thought there was one? I thought it was a bunch of overgrown children throwing temper tantrums and crap at the wall to see what sticks.


2 posted on 05/19/2017 10:01:57 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

None of the Trump critics i talk to are worried there is no scandal.


3 posted on 05/19/2017 10:02:12 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s always hillary-IRS-Fast&furious-Benghazi.....


4 posted on 05/19/2017 10:03:59 AM PDT by matthew fuller (The first amendment does NOT legalize the right to riot.)
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To: babble-on

I think he means the top 1% of his detractors, not the rank & file, don’t you?


5 posted on 05/19/2017 10:04:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Trump Admin is NOT in crisis! The NeverTrumpers are in crisis.

We are currently experiencing a coup attempt that seeks to remove a sitting president. Not an impeachment but a coup.

First rule of staging a coup is that you better not fail!The coup is failing!

When this coup attempt dies, which it is, Trump will know by name who the traitors are and Trump does not forget. We will know very soon who the traitors are and many will go to jail.

Just the facts folks!


6 posted on 05/19/2017 10:04:48 AM PDT by GilGil (E. Deplorabus Unum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Libtards will never let this go.

If the Special Counsel gives President Trump a clean bill of health the democrats will scream that the fix is in and that Robert Mueller has been corrupted by Trump and Putin.


7 posted on 05/19/2017 10:05:14 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Best Long Term Prepper Tactic: Beat The Muslim Takeover - Have Big Families)
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To: GilGil

I hope that you are correct. Time will tell.


8 posted on 05/19/2017 10:08:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This whole Russki “collusion” myth is a creation of the Obama/Clintoon “Deep State”. I checked under my bed and all of my closets and found no Russkis anywhere.


9 posted on 05/19/2017 10:08:12 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Illegal immigration is the first step in the voter fraud process.)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

The only real benefit to this bs allegation and media frenzy is a few more anti trumpets have been smoked out.


10 posted on 05/19/2017 10:10:07 AM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: GilGil

I agree with you...I also think it is good that the never Trumpers decided to try and take down the president from day one. if they had pretended to play nice for six months and then started to go after President Trump they might of been successful in coning the American people. (thank god they are incompetent)


11 posted on 05/19/2017 10:12:23 AM PDT by PCPOET7 (in)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

https://oig.justice.gov/press/2017/2017-01-12.pdf

Thing people keep missing. It might just be Comey,and the Obama White House, not Trump, who is the focus of the special council


12 posted on 05/19/2017 10:13:29 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This article doesn't bring up possible unintended consequences. McCain and hillary were hand-in-hand getting arms from Benghazi to ISIS-connected terrorists in Syria. We entered Syria illegally, and our troops are still there. The US has been real sloppy about regime change and created quite a global mess. And you want election interference? How about Kiev, Egypt, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc ad nauseum. You think maybe that Edrogan had some really interesting stories to tell about Obama/CIA involvement in that coup? And how about the current Egyptian pres talking about fun and games when the CIA toppled their gov and installed (through an election we interfered with) a Muslim maniac?How does a lot of this NOT get swept into the Special Council web? I'm thinking some real interesting people could spend the rest of their miserable lives where they belong....in jail.

There's a thought I've had for the past few weeks, as world leaders seem to genuinely enjoy their meetings with Trump. Maybe most world leaders across the globe are quite happy to have President Trump, who wants peace instead of toppling them and destabilizing their countries.

13 posted on 05/19/2017 10:14:07 AM PDT by grania (only a pawn in their game)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Careful what you wish for?


14 posted on 05/19/2017 10:16:02 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Donks will just make up another crisis. Fake But Accurate.


15 posted on 05/19/2017 10:17:51 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

Trump should remember who his Republican detractors are. “May God help any Republican who goes against me” would be the perfect threat.


16 posted on 05/19/2017 10:19:36 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Does the phrase all bark and no bite apply here? And not only will it backfire on the Trump detractors, but it could land Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, Robert Mook, Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett and Loretta Lynch in permanent legal hot water, including stays in the "big house." And it could end the career of Arthur Och "Pinch" Sulzberger, Jr. and force Jeff Bezos to seriously consider ditching the paper he bought some years ago.
17 posted on 05/19/2017 10:21:06 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter; MinuteGal

Trump will be vindicated and exonerated and they know it, therefore the Dems/MSM are now busy setting up the meme that Mueller will never be able to find out the “truth” and therefore Trump & Co. are still guilty, it just won’t be able to be discovered. No one but the snowflakes and hardcore kool-aid drinkers will believe them, and the Dems/MSM will be fully exposed as the despicable swamp creatures they are.


18 posted on 05/19/2017 10:23:24 AM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP 45. How sweet it is. )
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The the progressives/RATs/MSM cabal has squandered it’s credibility and won’t regain it for years. Watch for major collapsing in the homo-ginned-ized news media


19 posted on 05/19/2017 10:23:43 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: MNJohnnie
Thing people keep missing. It might just be Comey,and the Obama White House, not Trump, who is the focus of the special council

Yep. I think the reasons they are backing off now are items two and three. All of the sudden the scope of the investigation has expanded from the narrow effort to get Trump to a broad effort to get anybody engaged in wrongdoing of any sort. And it seems pretty open-ended. Like having McCain passing that bogus dossier off. Like covering the illegal unmasking and spying on Americans. Anything related to the Russia-collusion claims, even remotely.

20 posted on 05/19/2017 10:27:41 AM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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