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10 missing after USS John McCain collides with merchant ship; search underway
ABC NEWS ^ | August 20, 2017 | LUCIEN BRUGGEMAN

Posted on 08/20/2017 6:35:30 PM PDT by Enchante

A Navy guided-missile destroyer, the USS John S. McCain, collided with a commercial vessel east of Singapore early Monday morning local time, the Navy said.

There were 10 sailors missing and five injured, the Navy said.

The collision with the merchant ship Alnic MC occurred east of the Straits of Malacca and Singapore at 6:24 a.m. Japan Standard Time, as the McCain was on its way for a routine port visit in Singapore, the Navy said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: accident; maritime; military; missing; navy; sailors; searchworks; toomanygirls; usnavy; ussjohnmccain
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To: Enchante

This guy has the photo of the damaged ship:

https://twitter.com/DavidLarter


101 posted on 08/20/2017 7:33:30 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: AndyJackson

>>>At the beginning and end of these collisions stands a clueless officer of the deck. There is no excuse for being run into by a merchant when you are driving a Burke class DDG. It’s like being run into by a combine on a 27 lane freeway when you are driving a Ferrari.<<<

Exactly.


102 posted on 08/20/2017 7:34:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Enchante

Thanks ...

This is just nuts. The similarities between these two collisions are bizarre.


103 posted on 08/20/2017 7:37:13 PM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: Enchante

McCain have another wet start?


104 posted on 08/20/2017 7:37:30 PM PDT by Osage Orange (You have brains in your head...and feet in your shoes..............)
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To: Enchante
So distinct they covered for Johnny....

Yeah.....I buy that....

105 posted on 08/20/2017 7:39:34 PM PDT by Osage Orange (You have brains in your head...and feet in your shoes..............)
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To: toldyou
THANKS!! posting image below:


106 posted on 08/20/2017 7:40:54 PM PDT by Enchante (Searching throughout the country for one honest Democrat....)
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To: Enchante

Wonder what his father and grandfather would think of the man Senator McCain has become.


107 posted on 08/20/2017 7:41:05 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where is your bothers ElCamino ?)
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To: lizma2

If assigned to it, I would wear a life jacket 24/7.


108 posted on 08/20/2017 7:41:27 PM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44 (22 Yr, Navy Vet))
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To: SkyDancer
Is this a repeat of an earlier event or a new one?

Yes.

109 posted on 08/20/2017 7:42:00 PM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: Enchante
.....and now we'll soon see the onset of the USS John McCain Scrutiny.

Leni

110 posted on 08/20/2017 7:42:19 PM PDT by MinuteGal (GO TRUMP !!!.......GO PENCE !!!......USA !!! USA !!! USA !!!)
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To: Enchante

I think we need a new SecNav who’s more interested in having a combat-ready navy than accommodating transgender freaks...


112 posted on 08/20/2017 7:43:12 PM PDT by clintonh8r (AMERICA! THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY SCREEN NAME OBSOLETE!)
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To: SE Mom

Yes, the two “accidents” are so similar that it is..... incredible (difficult to believe). I have to wonder if some nefarious actor is messing with electronic systems, although that would not explain such massive failings of watch and command which should be able to monitor nearby ships.


113 posted on 08/20/2017 7:44:06 PM PDT by Enchante (Searching throughout the country for one honest Democrat....)
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To: AndyJackson

Don’t know the Navy that well.

Know about the OOD. but is there also a “CPO of the Watch?” If not, that might be a good idea.

In ‘nam, we ALWAYS has a mid-experience to senior NCO with all officers, especially the young ones. As a 2LT, I was told by the Lt. Colonel that for the first 30 days I was “Sergeant First Class Williams’s messenger boy!”

As a young Captain, even in Base Camp, I would drink a lot of water (well, usually water) at night to ensure I would wake up a few times to pee, and also check the guard mount on the berm/perimeter.

I had ordered that the First Sergeant, XO and I were never to be within 10 meters of each other during a tactical situation or at night, so one mortar or rocket could never take out all of us, but when I would go out to check the guard mount, some how, “magically”, SFC Browne, the #2 NCO in the unit, would always appear beside me after about 30 seconds.

Just by watching his facial expressions, I could see if my decisions were headed in the right direction.

Williams and Browne; Two great soldiers. RIP.


114 posted on 08/20/2017 7:45:30 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: rottndog

FUBAR


115 posted on 08/20/2017 7:45:51 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Enchante

I guess the affirmative action navy is working out well. Obama clearly put officers who had the right politics above the people with the right skills in place.


116 posted on 08/20/2017 7:47:23 PM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: toldyou

The two round black shapes on her signal halyards indicate “vessel not under command”. In the Colregs, that means she is damaged enough to limit her ability to maneuver to avoid collision.


117 posted on 08/20/2017 7:47:35 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Enchante

This is an outrageous disgrace! Not only does this demand an investigation as to the cause and remedy the citizens deserve an explanation.


118 posted on 08/20/2017 7:50:43 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Enchante
Seems kind of ridiculous to be making plans to send additional troops to Afghanistan when the U.S. Navy can't even avoid collisions with foreign merchant ships.

We're starting to get into Carter-era idiocy here. I'll give the Secretary of the Navy a pass on this because he was just confirmed less than three weeks ago, but it might be a good time for Defense Secretary Mattis to update his resume.

119 posted on 08/20/2017 7:51:39 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Nextrush

That and we taxpayers are pretty sick of paying for the damage caused by the ineptitude being demonstrated...


120 posted on 08/20/2017 7:51:47 PM PDT by TheBattman (Gun control works - just ask Chicago...)
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