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To: Hojczyk

As an American, I will fight for all people to be able to protest; anything they wish. They have that right to be wrong.

I will stand proudly at the playing of this nation’s anthem, because it is still the bastion of freedom.

What hurts me more, are those who demand that the protestors be fired, or hurt in any way, or forced to do something they do not believe in. It is tantamount to being made to bake a cake.

I hope my fellow Americans see the forest through all the trees.


8 posted on 09/25/2017 12:31:02 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: teeman8r
What hurts me more, are those who demand that the protestors be fired, or hurt in any way, or forced to do something they do not believe in. It is tantamount to being made to bake a cake.

There's a big difference between NFL fans demanding that these whiny SJWs stand for the anthem or be fired, and the government demanding that a private business bake a cake, or face jail time. It's difficult to believe you can't see that. Do I really have to explain the difference?

14 posted on 09/25/2017 12:35:15 PM PDT by thesharkboy (Charter member of the Basket of Deplorables)
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To: teeman8r
"What hurts me more, are those who demand that the protestors be fired, or hurt in any way, or forced to do something they do not believe in. It is tantamount to being made to bake a cake."

No one is being forced to do anything regarding the professional sports brouhaha. But, if memory serves, those Christian Cake makers were actually fined and forced out of business through misuse of the courts and the authority that they wield. Suggesting that these players be fired is simply people stating an opinion or suggestion, which is their right as a form of protest and complaint against their childish, divisive and disrespectful behavior. You're comparison doesn't hold water.

22 posted on 09/25/2017 12:40:29 PM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: teeman8r
It is tantamount to being made to bake a cake.

No, it is not. It is tantamount to the baker's customers taking their business elsewhere over his refusal to bake the cake.

Stop perpetuating this bullsh!t that a private business making its own business decisions is the same as a government agency forcing you to conduct business the way it sees fit.

27 posted on 09/25/2017 12:44:42 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: teeman8r

You’ve got it all wrong. They have a right to protest when they aren’t involved in their employment. They have no right whatsoever to bring their political protests to their place of work.


31 posted on 09/25/2017 12:50:21 PM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: teeman8r

“Forced to do something they don’t believe in”

Like what?


34 posted on 09/25/2017 12:56:24 PM PDT by stanne
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To: teeman8r
It is tantamount to being made to bake a cake.

This only compares, if you are an EMPLOYEE of the bakery. If the owner tells you to make a gay cake, you do it, or quit.

If you OWN the bakery, you should be able to decide who you do business with.

NFL players are employees of the NFL.

46 posted on 09/25/2017 1:21:47 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: teeman8r

“What hurts me more, are those who demand that the protestors be fired, or hurt in any way, or forced to do something they do not believe in. It is tantamount to being made to bake a cake.

“I hope my fellow Americans see the forest through all the trees.”

The government forced the baker’s to bake with the threat of imprisonment and bankruptcy level fines. These idiots can only be fired if they breech a written contract with a private entity and even then they loose their contract and that is it. Not their freedom or their wealth. Do you realize that you do not have “freedom of speech” when it comes to private contracts and employment?

Can you even see the trees?


47 posted on 09/25/2017 1:25:54 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: teeman8r

If people are so upset with players taking a knee during the national anthem, including the NFL commissioner, then why are these some of the same people who will buy concessions still being sold in the concourse, come through the gate as admissions to get to their seats while there si still time before the first snap, not get upset that radio and TV stations often do not air it in its entirety if at all and watch as people in the stands show various level of respect fidgeting around, talking, not removing head cover or looking at the flag as its being played?


48 posted on 09/25/2017 1:26:11 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: teeman8r
What hurts me more, are those who demand that the protestors be fired, or hurt in any way, or forced to do something they do not believe in.

Then you find another job.......that's pretty simple.

As an NFL franchise owner who employs YOU as a player, your contract to play for me contains language that says you will not conduct yourself either on the field or in private life in a manner that violates existing law or brings embarrassment upon MY TEAM or the NFL. Failure to abide by this contract will result in your immediate termination........

Virtually every NFL player has such language in their league contracts but it's not being enforced. So who is at fault? The NFL!

Need I remind you of the Dallas Cowboys last year who wanted to place emblems on their helmets honoring the Dallas policemen who lost their lives enforcing the law but were denied by the NFL?

50 posted on 09/25/2017 1:34:09 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: teeman8r
"What hurts me more, are those who demand that the protestors be fired, or hurt in any way, or forced to do something they do not believe in."

The players have a right to protest, and we have a right to disagree with them. But I guarantee that if the players were protesting on behalf of some conservative cause, the league would crack down on them HARD.
53 posted on 09/25/2017 2:15:11 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: teeman8r
What hurts me more, are those who demand that the protestors be fired, or hurt in any way, or forced to do something they do not believe in. It is tantamount to being made to bake a cake.

I believe that professional football players are paid to play football, not insult a captive audience with disgusting and unpatriotic activism.

People turn to sports to get away from politics and activists, not to be distracted by being forced to experience treasonous behavior by millionaire players and thugs.

I do not think that it is appropriate to give the people the middle finger when they are supposed to be playing football. Activism does NOT belong in sports. I an done with watching football for the year.

54 posted on 09/25/2017 2:22:03 PM PDT by olezip
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To: teeman8r

The can posture and go chimp on their own time.

When they go chimp or sullen on company time, they can be canned.


58 posted on 09/25/2017 2:46:21 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Why defend the EU?)
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To: teeman8r
What hurts me more, are those who demand that the protestors be fired, or hurt in any way, or forced to do something they do not believe in. It is tantamount to being made to bake a cake.

The NFL has existing "game conduct" rules that make this protest out-of-bounds. The fact that they refuse to enforce the existing rules tells me all I need to know.

The corollary to cake baking is that the first amendment explicitly protects the free exercise of religion, with no exception for "unless you run a business". Your comparison notwithstanding, the two examples are direct opposites. The NFL has rules it declines to enforce to allow players to explicitly offend its customers. The Constitution has rules that are countermanded by subordinate laws in the states, and no one is willing to protect the business owners from being deprived of their right to associate (or not) and to freely exercise their religion.

We disagree profoundly, FRiend.

63 posted on 10/03/2017 7:03:01 AM PDT by MortMan (NFL kneelers: A colonoscopy is not supposed to be a self-exam.)
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