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Put big game trophy decision on hold until such time as I review all conservation facts....
Real Donald Trump twitter account ^ | November 17, 2017 | President Donald Trump

Posted on 11/17/2017 5:53:25 PM PST by SMGFan

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To: SMGFan

Who is the trophy?

Lion Attack Hunting Safari Africa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24cpXqYOOW8

Lion Attacks Safari Hunter - about 2 mins in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTCfUipkzo4

Lion, Rhino and Elephant Attack Cars and Tourist
See about 2:40 in what an elephant can do to a car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRuvyDLtRjQ


21 posted on 11/17/2017 6:20:39 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: marktwain

I’m not sure you can have healthy animal populations without hunters as part of their management. Could you imagine our animal problems without a 2nd amendment?


22 posted on 11/17/2017 6:22:06 PM PST by umgud
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To: databoss

#11 Tell him to lower taxes for everyone biggly and also jail the Clintons : )


23 posted on 11/17/2017 6:22:11 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: billorites

I say if the money is going to the elephants and it is used to boost their numbers, it is ok, if it is only going to bribe corrupt african rulers and governments it is bad.


24 posted on 11/17/2017 6:23:18 PM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!Goo)
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To: dila813

The lands and animals need to be managed privately, for profit. That is the best for the animals in the long run.


25 posted on 11/17/2017 6:25:26 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: umgud

I’m not sure you can have healthy animal populations without hunters as part of their management. Could you imagine our animal problems without a 2nd amendment?


Many of those problems show up where hunting is not allowed.

I am amazed that so many people want to legislate with feelings ingested from fake TV animal programs. Pure anthropomorphism. We all do it to some extent.

Using reason and logic is very hard, and all reason and logic is based on a set of beliefs, in the end.


26 posted on 11/17/2017 6:25:43 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

That’s absolute bullsquat


27 posted on 11/17/2017 6:27:38 PM PST by digger48
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To: SMGFan

Not being a hunter I never understood the Big Game Hunting in Africa.

Big Game hunting, I think, probably was in it’s heyday from the late 1880’s to maybe before the start of W.W. II. In that small span of time trophy hunting just about decimated a great deal of the animals in Africa. While I might understand the man against jungle aspect of hunting then, that isn’t the case now.

Too many animals are near extinction like Elephants. Then you have the preserves where they breed Lions, Tigers, etc., for sport shooting. For the sole cause of some hunter to get a trophy for their wall.

Now if you were to put these hunters out on a preserve with just a cross bow and a knife, just to even the odds a little then go for it. Today a great number of those hunts are staged or worse.

If any of you can explain the attraction in today’s world then please enlighten me.


28 posted on 11/17/2017 6:27:57 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: marktwain

Ditto


29 posted on 11/17/2017 6:28:34 PM PST by umgud
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To: minnesota_bound
Watch out for those water buffaloes. I heard they got the worst temper. ;)


30 posted on 11/17/2017 6:29:32 PM PST by Red Steel
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In that small span of time trophy hunting just about decimated a great deal of the animals in Africa.


False. Trophy hunting was never much of a contributor to the decrease in animal populations in Africa.

The big contributors were loss of habitat, including protecting farms; legal commercial hunting, and poaching.


31 posted on 11/17/2017 6:32:18 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Red Steel

Watch out for those water buffaloes.


You realize that is *not* a water buffalo, right?


32 posted on 11/17/2017 6:33:56 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

In the 70’s, African nations PAID hunters to kill elephants, because they were becoming overpopulated and were ruining the landscape and watering holes that other species need to survive.

Peter Capstick was one of them. Google up “Death in the Long Grass”

(full disclosure-my recently deceased uncle built custom big game rifles up to and including the .700 Nitro Express)


33 posted on 11/17/2017 6:34:28 PM PST by digger48
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To: marktwain

Yes of course... A Cape Buff. ;^)


34 posted on 11/17/2017 6:37:03 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: ConservaTexan

“When you make something a commodity there is an inherent interest in preserving it. The parties making $$ off these hunts will have a vested interest in preserving the species.”

That’s the only way elephants will be preserved in Africa. Without hunting money, their will be no parks, conservation or protection. So instead of a few elephants taken through hunting, you’ll have elephants killed by the 1000’s through pouching, angry villagers, and lions.

But knee-jerking always feels better /s


35 posted on 11/17/2017 6:37:08 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Red Steel

Cape buffalo are the most dangerous animal over there.

They don’t just run you over, they keep coming back and trampling you until you are hamburger.

My uncle shot one with a .585, disintegrated its heart, yet it still ran full speed for over 100 yard. Full speed is around 35mph. 1500-2000 pounds of it.


36 posted on 11/17/2017 6:38:35 PM PST by digger48
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To: marktwain

Oh BTW, in that picture is Don Jr.


37 posted on 11/17/2017 6:39:14 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: SMGFan

I hope he keeps the ban.


38 posted on 11/17/2017 6:39:21 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Red Steel

Oh BTW, in that picture is Don Jr.


Yes. Looks pretty good, doesn’t he?


39 posted on 11/17/2017 6:41:11 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I hope he keeps the ban.


I am curious, why?

The ban is very bad for the elephants.


40 posted on 11/17/2017 6:42:21 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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