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Scientific Paper: It's Likely We Are Alone In The Observable Universe
https://arxiv.org ^ | June 26, 2018 | Hank Berrien

Posted on 06/26/2018 6:13:36 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

A new scientific paper published by a researcher with a Ph.D in computational neuroscience, a nanotechnology researcher, and a moral philosopher theorizes that there is a “substantial probability” that outside of Planet Earth, there is no other intelligent life in the observable universe. The abstract for the paper states that the conflict between the apparently lifeless universe that we observe and the Drake equation, which suggests the sheer multitude of possible sites for intelligent life should yield a large number of potentially observable civilizations, arises from the use of Drake-like equations, which are not necessarily reliable. The paper notes, “But while the equation is often invoked as a way of reasoning about uncertainties and ignorance, the actual practice is often considered to be somewhat suspect. Many papers state that some of their parameter choices are just their best guesses, though this fails to provide an appropriate framework for interpreting the result.”

The abstract notes that “extant scientific knowledge corresponds to uncertainties that span multiple orders of magnitude … When the model is recast to represent realistic distributions of uncertainty, we find a substantial probability of there being no other intelligent life in our observable universe, and thus that there should be little surprise when we fail to detect any signs of it.”

The authors conclude:

When we take account of realistic uncertainty, replacing point estimates by probability distributions that reflect current scientific understanding, we find no reason to be highly confident that the galaxy (or observable universe) contains other civilizations, and thus no longer find our observations in conflict with our prior probabilities. We found qualitatively similar results through two different methods: using the authors’ assessments of current scientific knowledge bearing on key parameters, and using the divergent estimates of these parameters in the astrobiology literature as a proxy for current scientific uncertainty.

When we update this prior in light of the Fermi observation, we find a substantial probability that we are alone in our galaxy, and perhaps even in our observable universe (53%–99.6% and 39%–85% respectively).

(ViaDailyWire)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aliens; paranoia; privilegedplanet; seti; strawmanargument; strawmen; waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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The Fermi paradox is the conflict between an expectation of a high {\em ex ante} probability of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe and the apparently lifeless universe we in fact observe. The expectation that the universe should be teeming with intelligent life is linked to models like the Drake equation, which suggest that even if the probability of intelligent life developing at a given site is small, the sheer multitude of possible sites should nonetheless yield a large number of potentially observable civilizations. We show that this conflict arises from the use of Drake-like equations, which implicitly assume certainty regarding highly uncertain parameters. We examine these parameters, incorporating models of chemical and genetic transitions on paths to the origin of life, and show that extant scientific knowledge corresponds to uncertainties that span multiple orders of magnitude. This makes a stark difference. When the model is recast to represent realistic distributions of uncertainty, we find a substantial {\em ex ante} probability of there being no other intelligent life in our observable universe, and thus that there should be little surprise when we fail to detect any signs of it. This result dissolves the Fermi paradox, and in doing so removes any need to invoke speculative mechanisms by which civilizations would inevitably fail to have observable effects upon the universe.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1806.02404

1 posted on 06/26/2018 6:13:36 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

No...

Tell me it isn’t so.


2 posted on 06/26/2018 6:16:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Para-Ord.45

“Observable universe” - what’s that, only what we know about?

There is vastly more we DO NOT know, than what we do. The arrogance that somehow Earth is absolutely unique is unfounded by any empirical knowledge we now have.

Sheer distance alone would make the probability of actually knowing if there were any other life forms out there purely conjectural, but that does not mean that some other advanced society may have already solved the twin paradoxes of instantaneous travel between points of the Universe, and the time displacement of achieving that instantaneous transport.


3 posted on 06/26/2018 6:23:18 PM PDT by alloysteel ("No" is a complete sentence. On so many levels.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Hm the lifeless universe we observe. Uh unless you include observing earth. Duh. Also, outside of our solar system I’m unaware of “observations” sufficient to determine other planets are lifeless. In fact I’m certain we have no such observations.


4 posted on 06/26/2018 6:23:18 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

So, maybe the Lord God created the whole Universe just for us?


5 posted on 06/26/2018 6:23:28 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism3)
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To: Para-Ord.45
“But while the equation is often invoked as a way of reasoning about uncertainties and ignorance, the actual practice is often considered to be somewhat suspect. Many papers state that some of their parameter choices are just their best guesses ... "

And yours isn't ???

6 posted on 06/26/2018 6:23:57 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight (Ich bin ein Deplorable)
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To: Para-Ord.45

What do they mean by ”observable universe?”


7 posted on 06/26/2018 6:26:06 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Para-Ord.45

Well, I for one am relieved. I no longer have to fear ending up on the dinner table of a space alien. This also means that all those habitable planets we find will be ours without a fight, and without a bunch of alien diseases.


8 posted on 06/26/2018 6:29:53 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: Brilliant

“What do they mean by ”observable universe?”

I presume he means anything that can be observed by our best telescopes. How many light years that is, I have no idea.


9 posted on 06/26/2018 6:30:15 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: Para-Ord.45

10 posted on 06/26/2018 6:31:51 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Para-Ord.45

Probability of life in the universe, global-warming forecasting, long-term political predictions ...

with all these complicated equations with multiple unknown variables, you can get out whatever result you want depending on how you define the inputs.

You’re basically just guessing.


11 posted on 06/26/2018 6:32:51 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Para-Ord.45

This is based on the same trust in mathematical simulations as global warming climate models. As much as I love probability and statistics, which have been central to a large portion of my life, I’m honest enough to admit what math cannot do. Math cannot tell us what the numbers in the Drake Equation are any more than it can tell us the coefficients in the climate equations.

Science is supposed to be based on truth, and the truth is that we don’t have any idea what our uncertainty is in any guesses at the Drake coefficients, nor do we have useful estimates for those guesses. We simply don’t know.


12 posted on 06/26/2018 6:33:47 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: be-baw

You can see quasars 13 billion miles away. I doubt they mean that. They are probably talking about the galaxy or even less.


13 posted on 06/26/2018 6:35:35 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Williams

In the universe I am sure there is life other than our own.

Naturally occurring, I’m not convinced at all.


14 posted on 06/26/2018 6:35:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Pollster1

Math cannot tell us what the numbers in the Drake Equation are any more than it can tell us the coefficients in the climate equations.

...

Drake wanted his equation to spark conversation on the subject and I think it worked.


15 posted on 06/26/2018 6:38:34 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Brilliant

Quasars are VERY BRIGHT or so I’ve been told.


16 posted on 06/26/2018 6:38:49 PM PDT by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack will be back in 2018!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Life is the product of a will, not probability.


17 posted on 06/26/2018 6:40:45 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: DoughtyOne

There is no evidence for life beyond our planet, so why would you be sure?


18 posted on 06/26/2018 6:41:53 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: TaMoDee

Yes. I read that they are so bright that a lot of physicists have difficulty believing they are really producing the radiation that they appear to produce.


19 posted on 06/26/2018 6:41:57 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: MuttTheHoople

That was My first impression,
and the Lord has gone to
Prepare a Place for Us.


20 posted on 06/26/2018 6:42:26 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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