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The disaster that is the modern Democratic Party began 50 years ago in Chicago
Portland Press Herald ^ | 9/19/2018 | Charles Todorich

Posted on 09/20/2018 7:32:36 AM PDT by cp124

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To: Olog-hai

The USRA was a wartime action that ended in 1920. Wilson opposed the continuation of federal control although the unions were all for it.


21 posted on 09/20/2018 9:44:25 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: RoosterRedux

:: I marvel at how such a good looking woman can erase her beauty with an abundance of stupidity ::

Used to be that a “ditzy” chick was an easy tap...errr...mark.


22 posted on 09/20/2018 9:52:00 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: cp124

Whoever advises the Dems on their strategy & how to win at anything — is failing.


23 posted on 09/20/2018 9:55:07 AM PDT by unsycophant
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To: cp124

But But But .. it was all about Peace Love and Harmony, Man.

What happened?

Socialism , Baby, Socialism.

50 years of anarchy and “Resistance’ ensued.


24 posted on 09/20/2018 10:06:21 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: cp124

Back in the early 50s the democrats smeared McCarthy who was exposing the commies in the state department under FDR and HST


25 posted on 09/20/2018 10:19:06 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: SoCal Pubbie

World War II showed no need for it. The railroads remained in private hands.


26 posted on 09/20/2018 10:21:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Yet all commercial production was controlled by Washington. Supplies were rationed. I’m not saying that the USRA was a good idea, I just don’t think it’s a good example or a socialist policy.


27 posted on 09/20/2018 12:07:26 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Rebelbase
At least those a-holes had the balls to show their faces.

Now the socialists hide behind masks.

It would not surprise me in the least if about 75% of those "protesters" in the picture are hard core conservatives.

Everyone deserves to be young and stupid at some point.

The smart ones evolve and understand that the world doesn't revolve around a 19 year old's "feelings".

I have a feeling that their "square" and "unhip" WWII era parents weren't so dumb, after all.

28 posted on 09/20/2018 3:06:37 PM PDT by boop ("I said give me the brandy!")
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To: SoCal Pubbie

It’s definitely socialist precedent. No greater control was exerted over the railroads by the federal government since USRA, although it’s been the precedent for all of the state-run commuter railroads as well as Amtrak and Conrail.


29 posted on 09/20/2018 3:13:38 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: cp124

I date the Democrat Party moving to the extreme Left as being in 1972 during their Convention that year when they changed a lot of the rules on who could attend and nominated George McGovern.


30 posted on 09/20/2018 3:17:48 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Olog-hai

“In March 1918, the Railroad Control Act was passed into law. It stated that within 21 months of a peace treaty, the railroads would be returned by the government to their owners and that the latter would be compensated for the usage of their property.”

If it was socialism, it was temporary. Is martial law socialism, or a temporary measure designed to deal with a critical situation? Again, I’m not arguing that is was wise, I just don’t see how it could be considered nationalization in the same sense that industry was nationalized long term in Europe.


31 posted on 09/20/2018 4:24:43 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

No such thing as temporary socialism. It certainly set the stage for what followed, including government road ownership. It’s no accident that we’re down to five major railroads too.

One thing that the Communist Manifesto points out is that the “measures” used to push socialism on the nations “will be different in different countries”. That would include temporary reversions to what they would consider the “bourgeois” state of affairs.


32 posted on 09/20/2018 4:59:32 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Then explain the language of the law.


33 posted on 09/20/2018 5:06:34 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Olog-hai

Then show me your gas ration coupons for 2018.


34 posted on 09/20/2018 5:07:38 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

We didn’t have gas ration coupons we had odd and even license number days, those were the good old days under Jimmy Carter!!!!


35 posted on 09/20/2018 5:10:53 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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And those days were temporary right? According to the other poster there’s no such thing as temporary socialism. So either that’s wrong, or the measures in question aren’t socialism.


36 posted on 09/20/2018 5:13:22 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Actually, the text of the act is long and ponderous. Section 16 states that “nothing herein is to be construed as expressing or prejudicing the future policy of the Federal Government concerning the ownership, control, or regulation of carriers or the method or basis of the capitalization thereof”, leaving things open for the future socialization of such carriers. Also note the sweeping powers given to the POTUS under the law.

The text of the law does not say “21 months” after its enaction, further, but “a reasonable time hereafter” defined as “not exceed(ing)” 21 months after the POTUS ratifies a peace treaty. Either way, the takeover was not necessary and set the stage for what followed.
37 posted on 09/20/2018 5:23:48 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Nonsequitur.

Albeit state gas taxes have become onerous in many locales.


38 posted on 09/20/2018 5:26:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Of course there is temporary Socialism a leader can throw a country into socialism and another can take the country out of socialism!!! If HELLARY had been elected our country in another 8 years of Obammie policies would have been socialist no doubt in my mind!!! Thank God Trump was elected WE WERE very close!!! Countries that DO NOT have temporary socialism have dictators and the people have no way to change their government EXCEPT revolution which is very difficult!!!


39 posted on 09/20/2018 5:27:25 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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… and the mind-numbingly idiotic statement by Fox News commentator Marie Harf on “Outnumbered” on Aug. 16 that “the highest form of patriotism is protest.” …
Echoes of the early 2000s, when the left was falsely attributing Howard Zinn’s “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism” to Thomas Jefferson when complaining about the Iraq war.
40 posted on 09/20/2018 5:30:03 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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