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Trump Ridicules Macron Approval Rating, French World War Losses (Haha)
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Posted on 11/13/2018 7:06:44 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
Macron is Pétain in short pants... without the kepi.
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posted on
11/13/2018 9:29:52 AM PST
by
Pennsyltucky Boy
(bitterly clinging to our constitutional rights in PA)
To: Leaning Right
The collapse of the French Front against the German maneuver through Belgium in WW II was also due to the line being manned by poorly trained reservists, literally cooks and bottle washers being thrown against the Panzer divisions. No wonder they broke and ran.
By contrast, the French underground, controversial and uneven, did a great service after DDay, impeding the progress of the elite and rested Das Reich Panzer Division being brought up from southern France to counterattack the flank of the Allied beach head.
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posted on
11/13/2018 9:30:36 AM PST
by
hinckley buzzard
(Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
To: pepsi_junkie
You know, after what Chirac did to us when Bush was trying to gather a coalition of nations after 9/11, I could care less what Trump tweets about them. If I remember correctly, while being nice to Bush’s face, Chirac was working behind the scenes, calling other foreign leaders in an attempt to undermine Bush’s attempts to form a coalition.
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posted on
11/13/2018 9:31:40 AM PST
by
mass55th
(Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
To: RoosterRedux
Here’s what we all know about the French...they rolled over like lapdogs for the Nazis while their greatest (haha) general sat out the war in London. It took the Americans to help them decide which side to be on when they won the war. They couldn’t scramble to the table fast enough claiming victimhood and demanding their oversized piece of the pie. Again. And if all those who claimed to be in the imaginary “French underground” had joined the military they might have actually been able to protect themselves. And now? They are repeating the same by rolling over for the islamists and having their greatest cities being destroyed by another population that hates them and wants to bomb their monuments. Same mindset, different year. The French are NOT our friends and never have been. And please, I don’t want to hear about their help during our Revolution. They never even showed up until after the fighting was over. The Russians came to help us before the French did. And here’s the real kicker...their tourism is dying a painful death as it deserves.
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posted on
11/13/2018 9:35:14 AM PST
by
13Sisters76
("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
To: Leaning Right
The French stand at Bir Hacheim in North Africa was epic also!
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After the war, Generalmajor Friedrich von Mellenthin wrote, ‘In the whole course of the desert war, we never encountered a more heroic and well-sustained defence’ “
Usually the French army in modern times suffered more from poor higher military leadership and even worse political leadership saddling them with poor equipment & impossible situations then from a lack of courage.
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posted on
11/13/2018 9:41:56 AM PST
by
Reily
To: Enterprise
Not this time. my grandfather landed on Omaha Beach on D-Day and told me how few real Frenchman there actually were willing to fight for their country. I can imagine today it’s even less than it was back in 1944.
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posted on
11/13/2018 9:56:39 AM PST
by
mrmeyer
(You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
To: mrmeyer
The sad fact is that the French Resistance consisted mainly of Communists.
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posted on
11/13/2018 9:57:11 AM PST
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: pepsi_junkie
In this case, I think mocking France's losses in WW1
Trump wasn't mocking their losses, he was mocking their leadership and rightly so.
In BOTH world wars, the incompetency at the top nearly lost the French their country. The average French soldier, however ridiculed here and elsewhere is undeserved as they fought bravely despise badly led.
If not for the Americans in BOTH WW, the first war Germans held French territory and in the second, had the whole country under their domain.
It was only with fresh, American troops did the French regained their territory.
And the French have made Americans regret their generosity ever since.
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posted on
11/13/2018 10:00:48 AM PST
by
RedMonqey
("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
To: thoughtomator
Macron, Trudeau... whats with this generation of limp-wristed leftist governors of US vassal states? French ancestry and language?
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posted on
11/13/2018 10:05:11 AM PST
by
Defiant
(I may be deplorable, but I'm not getting in that basket.)
To: mrmeyer
They would be wise to read and comprehend Solzhenitsyn’s words on how they burned with anger in the camps, thinking of the time when they should have resisted.
To: bagman
One should not doubt French valor in the Great War. My reading of history has the German summer offensives of 1918 being blunted without significant American participation.
Yeah but the battle was on French soil. Being the Germans was sitting on France proper. But I get your point. It wasn't the fault of the average French soldier that he was badly led. He valiantly fought despite his blood being wasted by poor leadership.
Seems the French are continuing the leadership tradition...
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posted on
11/13/2018 10:09:39 AM PST
by
RedMonqey
("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
To: JesusIsLord
Is this actually true? Regardless of our gender, our genes come from both our parents.
The point being that the healthiest males, who would insure the healthiest offspring, are no longer there and the second class, if you may allow me, to marry and have offspring that are not as vigorous as the would be children of the first class males who died and did not leave behind offspring. The second class men are the ones who were too old or physically unfit for service.
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posted on
11/13/2018 10:14:44 AM PST
by
RedMonqey
("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
To: RoosterRedux
I guess we won’t have to save them a third time.
5.56mm
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posted on
11/13/2018 10:14:55 AM PST
by
M Kehoe
(DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
To: Enterprise
It’s pointless to try to save a people that don’t want to be saved.
To: RoosterRedux
To: JesusIsLord
Most of the men died childless. Many women consequently never married and remained barren. Modern birth control and widespread abortion did the rest.
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posted on
11/13/2018 12:06:03 PM PST
by
allendale
(.)
To: M Kehoe
You know we will tho. We always do.
To: pepsionice
I would time this to occur once BREXIT clicks into place....leave some US forces in the UK as part of our future with them, and then quietly dismantle the bulk of our forces in Europe (saving perhaps the naval port in Italy). Concurring bump...good idea.
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posted on
11/13/2018 3:59:34 PM PST
by
mac_truck
(aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
To: RedMonqey
The point being that the healthiest males, who would insure the healthiest offspring, are no longer there and the second class.Again, if the men who died had brothers or sisters who survived the war, those siblings carried similar genes as the soldier who died because all of them received equal/similar genetic input from their father and mother. The point being that the surviving siblings will pass-on genes similar to those of their dead brother. Also, if the soldier who died had children who survived the war, naturally the child would carry his (dead) father's and mother's genes.
Modern weapons serve to make men equal on the battlefield. Muscle is not as important as courage, knowledge and wisdom on the modern battlefield. As an earlier poster mentioned, both nurture and nature are factor in forming the mindset and abilities of a soldier. I tend to believe that nurture is the primary factor. I.e., courage, knowledge and wisdom come primarily from how we are nurtured/taught/raised more than our gene makeup.
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