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Robert Mueller — “If We Had Confidence President Did Not Commit a Crime We Would Have Said So”
GP ^ | May 29,2019 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 05/29/2019 8:30:10 AM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Responsibility2nd
What the hell kind of double talk is this???

The kind that gets the country all upset again.

We just finished 2+ years of investigations which had the country at each others throats. He gave out a report, which simply vindicated the POTUS and the people in the country accepted it; and, things have settled down, somewhat.

Well, then this b*****d gets up in front of a microphone and does politically motivated double speak. This basically puts the problem back on the stove, and he turned the heat to high. I cannot believe that this guy did this. He threw a greande into the public arena; and, then walked away into his private life. Unbelieveable.

221 posted on 05/29/2019 10:58:50 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: buckalfa

Indeed, even as a supporter of Cruz in 2016, I hate to say it but he may actually vote to impeach.

And then of course there is Rand “nutjob” Paul. And the wish-wash Sisters from Maine and Alaska.

So that’s 4 right there, possible votes. Still a long way from the 15 required but still. Something to think about (not as assured as we may like to think).

Cruz is a maybe, but this may afford him an opportunity to finally pay Trump back for his nastiness late in the primaries. But the last 3 I’d say are almost assured to vote to impeach, for “principals” doncha know.


222 posted on 05/29/2019 11:20:08 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

Can’t forget Romney.. He hates Trump.


223 posted on 05/29/2019 11:23:09 AM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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To: JerseyDvl

Down to 10 now.


224 posted on 05/29/2019 11:24:49 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Hojczyk

Makes sense— you’re guilty, unless proven innocent. Right? /s


225 posted on 05/29/2019 11:26:15 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: FourtySeven

A Senate vote to remove President Trump would be the death of the Republic and should result in the withdrawal of the consent of the governed. Republican deep state Senators who cast such a vote should be considered enemies of the USA.


226 posted on 05/29/2019 11:50:48 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29

The law against propaganda in place since just after WWII was lifted in 2013, after 0bama was re-elected.

If you are not under oath, it’s de rigueur to lie with impunity.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/


227 posted on 05/29/2019 11:54:19 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: Truth29

For the ‘crime’ of winning against all odds.


228 posted on 05/29/2019 11:55:56 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: Hojczyk

Trust me the very opposite is true...had they found the slightest evidence that Trump committed anything remotely criminal they would have been all over it. Mueller’s sophistry is appalling... they could find no evidence of crime, but they couldn’t say there wasn’t any. Kind of like finding Bigfoot... there is no hard evidence Bigfoot exists, but it could still be out there.


229 posted on 05/29/2019 11:56:58 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatche)
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To: The Great RJ
Kind of like finding Bigfoot... there is no hard evidence Bigfoot exists, but it could still be out there.

Good analogy. And the "believers", in this case the Dems, will continue to follow that shadow.

230 posted on 05/29/2019 11:58:03 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Guenevere

Mueller wants the average idiot to believe_there was a crime committed that can’t be prosecuted_ and the radio headline Media are running with it.


231 posted on 05/29/2019 12:09:25 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

This is a somewhat special case. He certainly could have referred with a recommendation, even knowing that there could be no actual indictment. That, however is not where the line was drawn.

Mueller decided he didn’t have a case to even attempt or recommend an indictment.


232 posted on 05/29/2019 12:11:16 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

If the DOJ order about not indicting a sitting president was blocking them from indicting Trump, there’s an easy way around it. Crimes like collusion and obstruction do not happen in a vacuum and CEOs are used to giving others orders and expecting them to be carried out. Mueller could have indicted one of the people close to Trump and pressured them to turn on Trump in order to get what they needed. The fact that they did not indict anyone else in Trump’s inner circle (other than old crimes unconnected with the Trump campaign) tells me he did NOT collude or obstruct.

Secondly, Mueller’s statement is like asking the defendant to prove a negative, which is often impossible and must NOT be the burden of proof in an official investigation. There is only evidence (thus charges) and lack of evidence (thus no charges).

Rush Limbaugh concluded Mueller’s announcement was to say he wouldn’t testify before Congress and this was *not* so he’d have to answer questions from Democrats but that he’d answer questions from Republicans. Senate Republicans should subpoena Mueller to appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee and, if he refuses to appear, find him in contempt.


233 posted on 05/29/2019 1:25:16 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Trump is Making the Media Grate Again)
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To: Hojczyk

Guilty until proven innocent.


234 posted on 05/29/2019 2:06:51 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: old curmudgeon
Trump has made a fool of Mueller and Mueller is proving it.

I don’t know about that. Mueller has done a pretty good job of making a fool of himself throughout his career. He doesn’t seem to need any help.

235 posted on 05/29/2019 5:25:03 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: OrangeHoof
If the DOJ order about not indicting a sitting president was blocking them from indicting Trump, there’s an easy way around it. Crimes like collusion and obstruction do not happen in a vacuum and CEOs are used to giving others orders and expecting them to be carried out. Mueller could have indicted one of the people close to Trump and pressured them to turn on Trump in order to get what they needed. The fact that they did not indict anyone else in Trump’s inner circle (other than old crimes unconnected with the Trump campaign) tells me he did NOT collude or obstruct.

You’ve made a superb point. Sitting President Trump may be immune from indictment and prosecution, but one would have to assume that he acted entirely alone, insulated from all of his lieutenants, aides, and assistants throughout the campaign, in his commission of the Russian Collusion and that NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM ASSISTED CANDIDATE TRUMP IN COLLUDING WITH THE RUSSIANS. Not a single one of these people are immunized by being a current sitting president of the United States under the Department of Justice’s policy on indicting which has been in place since 1973 (IIRC), yet not a single one of these supposed co-conspirators was indicted, arrested, or even identified as an un-indicted co-conspirator in obstruction of justice with the sitting president, assuming there actually was no collusion, who would have had to participated in the process of collusion and/or obstruction of justice.

This makes absolutely no sense, unless there WAS no collusion and no obstruction and even no conspiracy (conspiracy even to commit a misdemeanor is a felony). If there were, there should have been ancillary indictments for these primary crimes brought by the grand jury of people near the president associated with actual campaign and administration activities or obstruction of justice other than President Trump, not just of people accused of process crimes having to do with testimony or of individual crimes unrelated to the investigation but uncovered by background discovery investigations.

Mueller and his SLAPP happy gang of prosecutors certainly could have indicted many people surrounding President Trump, especially his advisors, for obstruction had such even existed, because the only one who had a constitutional immunity was President Trump. Ergo, such obstruction simply did not occur.

236 posted on 05/29/2019 5:55:29 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Hojczyk

Because this traitorous cabal of compromised extreme LIB integrity-free a**holes were illegitimate in the first place , these criminals presuppose guilt. All should be disbarred and arrested .


237 posted on 05/29/2019 6:07:33 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Swordmaker

I don’t know about that. Mueller has done a pretty good job of making a fool of himself throughout his career. He doesn’t seem to need any help.


President Trump knew that Mueller would fail, so he gave him everything he asked for.

I am sure the president knew the crazies, Mad Maine, Pelosi, Schiff and others, would never give up.

So by giving Mueller everything he asked for, President Trump is justified in telling the congressional investigators to forget asking for the same stuff all over.

So Mueller’s little speech today accomplished nothing in the real world, regardless of the crazies mental political orgy.


238 posted on 05/29/2019 7:18:15 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There isTha no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: Swordmaker
You’ve made a superb point.

Yes, I know. And you did a fine job of explaining this in more detail. I kept waiting for some talking head to make this point but I didn't hear it.

239 posted on 05/29/2019 9:54:47 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Trump is Making the Media Grate Again)
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