Posted on 08/05/2019 5:09:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
This is a very bad idea and is unconstitutional. Our founders went to great lengths with the Constitution and Bill of Rights to prevent this kind of tyranny.
Socialist Russia, National Socialist Germany, among other totalitarian regimes implemented these nightmarish measures. Neighbors ratting on neighbors, children ratting on parents, etc.
Guns today, thought crimes tomorrow.
I believe Stalin even introduced a quota system. If you didn't report your quota, then you were considered an enemy of state and you were sent to the Gulags yourself.
But then they’d be superfluous.
Have no fear of that.
That’s because nowadays they don’t teach nor learn from history any more.
Leftists must be written out of American life, and looked at as crazy. I think this is happening, my liberal family has had it with yhe Dems. I think there are nillions like them. WE ARE THE MAJORITY!
Yes, you are right. Either we can govern ourselves, or we cannot. If we cannot then we deserve what we end up with. The left has done it’s job well removing morality from the schools and society. And now because of that we have to step out onto the slippery slope, or be pushed.
Remember, during O’s administration, that there was an effort, with help from propaganda MSM, to imply that nearly all returning combat veterans were suffering from some sort of “mental illness”?
Finaly the lines are drawn, it is high noon, thank GOD, it is the Left vs. America. PT has akways been popular in Red and Purple America.
As if THREE amnesty attempts since 2006 were not enough to wake them up.
What happens if the gun owner rightfully refuses to allow entry into his property and refuses to surrender his firearms? Is the government justified in using force even though no crime has been committed? If no crime has been committed and no probable cause even exists, is it not the government that is the committing the crime?
Did you sue anyone over that outrage you suffered?
If not, you should have.
“The dork Lindsey is being ripped to pieces on South Carolina talk radio tonight.”
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That gives me hope. It is uplifting to hear.
Thank-you for posting.
Have to agree that if they can label a universal income supporter as a Capitalistic Trump Supporter, they can make anyone look crazy. The problem is the government itself has become crazy.
I’ve always wondered about that. If you actually survive the experience of shooting cops doing this, how effective would your defense be if you claimed it was a 2A right?
I think there was a case in VA years ago where a cop entered a residence without a warrant and was killed and the guy got off in appeal because of that.
Not sure how it works when they are “following the law” but the 2A is designed for tyranny which by definition includes laws that suck.
The real irony is that these sicko/evil shooters would love to see Joe Public disarmed too...
I meant if the owner simply refused to let the cops in and refused to surrender his firearms. Not if he started shooting. If the owner started shooting I think that makes him the aggressor and almost certainly in legal peril. If the owner simply refuses and the police use force then they become the aggressor and I believe would be committing multiple crimes. How does a judge issue a warrant to seize property when no crime has been committed, no probable cause exists and no evidence? How do the police justify use of force against a completely innocent person?
"Not sure how it works when they are “following the law”"
It's strange how that statement sounds so similar to "just following orders" doesn't it?
I think we need to know what has happened so far in states that already have these laws. Where are the legal battles? and why has the results of red flag actions been kept so quiet?
One thing in my mind is for certain. If we go down this road on a national level we have completely abandoned the constitution and all bets are off.
It is posts such as yours, that play right into the Loony Lefts hands. It makes all conservatives sound like radicals.I deplore the Red Flag laws, but lets take a sensible approach to fighting against them.
I’m not talking about being the aggressor either. If you say no, then what? The cops use force to include drawing their gun. So if you defend yourself to prevent that use of force...
Another thing I am certain of is if any gun control legislation is signed Trump will be a one term President. It will not matter how bad the democrat nominee is the President will not be reelected. We better do what we can do to keep this administration from making a fatal mistake.
“16 states have these nazi red flag laws already. I might just sit out 2020.”
NO!! Get out there and vote! National, state, local; if you do nothing else, VOTE!!
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