Posted on 12/17/2019 5:26:32 PM PST by Uncle Miltie
Carter Page was a back door into the ENTIRE Trump campaign, including all communications by Mr. Trump.
How? Beacuse Page emailed Joe who phoned Sue who texted Jim who emailed Trump. See?
Have you ever noticed that nobody ever discusses the extent of the intelligence PRODUCT? That's because it was infinitely wide.
Where is the report showing what was gathered in the net? Nowhere. Why? Perhaps because it is a National Security Secret to demonstrate how astoundingly capable and evil they can be.
NEVER accept that they merely targetted Page. He was just the pawn to open the door so wide they could listen to every word campaign-wide, including and especially Trump.
Thank you for your consideration of my rare vanity.
FISA’s License to Hop
A conspiratorial enterprise is bound to involve communications beyond Carter Page’s first circle of direct contact, so investigators need to look at the next circle as well. They may need to look further, depending on the communications patterns they find in the first two circles radiating from their named target. But under current rules, it’s the first two that government investigators can routinely gain access to in order to “uncover the full scope of a conspiratorial enterprise,” without needing to apply for further warrants.
This convention is referred to as the “two-hop” rule, and, like many provisions of surveillance law, has come in for criticism by civil libertarians. The original FISA was passed in 1978, before the internet age. After 9/11, information technology enabled surveillance operators under the Patriot Act, which complemented and in some ways overlapped FISA surveillance, to inaugurate a “three-hop” rule exploiting computer-networked communications to look well beyond the first-order contacts of a central subject (under Patriot Act surveillance, a terror suspect). This was done via presidential order and came as an unwelcome surprise to the public when the practice was revealed, and initially dubbed “warrantless wiretapping,” in 2005.
Subsequent efforts to rein in intelligence-community hopping resulted in some restrictions on the margins, but ultimately in the codification of post-9/11 practice, which was framed as aiming to prevent a terror attack on the US homeland. In 2008, with the FISA Amendments Act, Congress effectively authorized the three-hop rule used under the Patriot Act—although that point was understood by the public only in hindsight, following the revelations about surveillance practices made by National Security Agency (NSA) contract worker Edward Snowden.
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And yes, you are right, the mainstream media pretends they don’t know this. Trump was their target. Page was just the door they used to gain access to Trump. They tried Papadopoulos first but their own lawyers shot them down because there was no crime alleged even if he did say something silly in that London bar.
And as we now know, they wouldn’t have even been able to get to Page if they didn’t have the lies of the Steele Dossier and the documents they forged and the exculpatory evidence they withheld.
The creation of the Steele Dossier is probably the “insurance policy” they discussed. The Horowitz report tells us they got a tip from an unnamed spy in July but by its description it seems that that this spy was Steele. Then in August Page and Strzok text each other about an insurance policy. Then in September they get the written Steele Dossier. The FBI claims they didn’t get any evidence until September but Horowitz says they got it in July. I suggest that the “insurance policy” was their decision to get Steele to put his lies into writing so that they could take it to the FISA Court. Otherwise, without it being in writing, they had no probable cause to get the warrants in the first place.
Seems to me they did all of this intentionally. They pushed Steele off the FBI payroll and attached him with Glen Simpson’s firm in order that they could collect his Dossier without it appearing as if the FBI itself was running the operation, but merely ‘acting on a tip’. The entire scheme was contrived and made to look legit and it probably started in the spring of 2016.
I like that "two circles radiating from the named target" (or similar descriptions) because it makes clear the magnitude of the intrusion. It is everyone within 2 lines of communication with the target. If I am the target, they can get 1000+ business associates, and from there how many 1000s of associates to each of them have contact with? Someone with a statistics knowledge might be able to figure out what this means to the average person - but it's got to be many millions of possible people spied on just from getting a warrant against a single person, especially if you can go back in time, as AG Barr said in his recent interview, months or years.
Seems to me they did all of this intentionally. They pushed Steele off the FBI payroll and attached him with Glen Simpson’s firm in order that they could collect his Dossier without it appearing as if the FBI itself was running the operation, but merely ‘acting on a tip’. The entire scheme was contrived and made to look legit and it probably started in the spring of 2016.
Agree. Steele had special FBI status as a source or whatever they called it that allowed the FIB confidence trick.
This, of course, should have been investigated in 2017 but thanks to the recusal of Rip Van Sessions here we are nearly in 2020 discussing these issues.
Didn’t they start stinging Papadop back when he was an advisor to Ben Carson?
This is a common tactic for law enforcement. Go after the low guy to reach the big guy. It has been this way since they started taking down the crime families. This is not an unknown tactic either. Know your history as this was a no brainer.
They are allowed to drill down 3 layers. So If Page had 100 people on his contact lists, this includes email and phone that’s 100, then they also can monitor each of those 100, so if each had only 100 contacts then that’s 10,000 being monitored. and that’s only 2 levels down, so those 10,000 are monitored and we reach a million
Section 702 shouldn't be legal
There has to be a list.
If the government has the technology to monitor all electronic communication, they will. If necessary using foreign surrogates.
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