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More Americans Now Identify as Republicans Than They Do As Democrats
Big League Politics ^ | February 16, 2020 | Richard Moreland

Posted on 02/17/2020 4:29:43 AM PST by CheshireTheCat

More Americans now identify as Republicans than they do as Democrats, according to new polling regarding party affiliation conducted by Gallup.

According to the polling, conducted on January 16th-19th, 30% of American identify as Republicans. 27% identify as Democrats.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blaxit; trends; trump2020; walkaway; winning
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To: duckman

Mike Shepard (@MJSHEP on Twit) has followed this for 2.5 years on four different polls.

Trump is regularly between 16% and 26% approval. This doesn’t include the outlier recent polls that had him at 25%-30%. I don’t believe that.

“Approval” is one thing. Voting is another. I think you cut that # in half, meaning he’s between 8 and 13% in the vote (He got 8 last time). However, last time in three big states (NC, FL, PA) 3% more blacks stayed homne in 2016 than in 2012.

The “Stay-at-home” is = to 1/2 point in the vote. I think that of those 16-26%, once you subtract Trump’s actual vote, let’s say, 12%, you factor in the stay-at-home at 1/2 vote for another 3-5% “actual” impact.

Trump will “get” between 12 and 15% of the black vote either directly or indirectly, almost double what he got in 2016 on the upperbound #.


21 posted on 02/17/2020 5:56:37 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: CheshireTheCat

22 posted on 02/17/2020 6:05:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: KarlInOhio
Maybe so, but a quick excel merge-from-web and insert-table (removing the Unenrolleds), shows when this condition occurred (not the first time) and long term trends, lending some credibility:


23 posted on 02/17/2020 6:10:15 AM PST by C210N
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To: Travis McGee

It took all of Melania’s..er...charms to allow me to be able to stomach that picture of the Buttplug couple.


24 posted on 02/17/2020 6:17:46 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (With every passing day, I am a little bit gladder that Romney lost in 2012.)
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To: yldstrk

Happy people attract other people. I did a college experiment by going into a bar and just start laughing and smiling with a small group people flocked to us.


25 posted on 02/17/2020 6:20:23 AM PST by cnsmom
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To: duckman

Kind of ironic that down here in “Mississippi Burning” land, I have seen many Blacks with Trump signs and who are not afraid to say they support him....and who also had “Romney” signs when he ran against Obama....


26 posted on 02/17/2020 6:39:40 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Corporate globalist Republicans or Trump Republicans?


27 posted on 02/17/2020 6:41:05 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Both “parties”, and pretty much any established “party” in the world need to go the way of the dinosour.


28 posted on 02/17/2020 6:46:10 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat (.)
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To: CheshireTheCat
Independents are also leaning more Republican

Pelosi tearing up the speech in front of the Nation, will spook more Independents to the Right on early voting and election day, than any single event for 2020 or previous elections. Once the election is over, they will revert back to being Independents.

29 posted on 02/17/2020 7:39:13 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: yldstrk

Okay she is voting for the current POTUS. My following questions to her would about more substantial issues like how she would vote on certain demonrat issues. Then would silently label her a RINO if her answers still followed the demonrat platfotm. Most of these “now-I-am-a-repube” still vote in favor of demonrat issues. There is more to being a conservative than voting for this or that politician.


30 posted on 02/17/2020 7:53:13 AM PST by zaxtres
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To: C210N

The largest category consists of independents, who form 42% of registered voters. Independents have consistently made up the largest category of American voters for decades.

The articles is referring to polling which is taken from what people tell the pollster while this article refers to registered unenrolleds (called independents here). Does the poll ask you how are you registered our which party you identify with?


31 posted on 02/17/2020 8:33:40 AM PST by Steven Scharf
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To: goldstategop
Republicans and most independents love America and Democrats don’t.
Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - is naiveté towards government.

Republicanism is skepticism - neither naiveté nor cynicism - towards government and towards society. It wasn't safe to trust Jim Comey when he was astride the government’s investigative arm (and itsn’t safe to trust Wray now) - but there were, are, and will be people who should investigated.


32 posted on 02/17/2020 8:40:13 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - is naiveté towards government.

Once they gain power, then they will ban the cynicism and you will be forced to "love the State".

33 posted on 02/17/2020 8:41:42 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: kearnyirish2
Roosevelt is a saint compared to today’s Dems.

. . . I’m not a fan of Roosevelt, but I understand that he looked at other developed countries and saw the reactions to the economic depression (communism or fascism) - he sought a third way, and it seemed to work.

If so, he had Mussolini fooled. Actually, Mussolini invented Fascism as a “third way” from Capitalism and the Communism from which he broke away.
Although our modern socialists' promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under 'communism' and 'fascism'. As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939,
'the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of unfreedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and [already in 1939!] it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany.
No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.

What is promised to us as the Road to Freedom is in fact the Highroad to Servitude. For it is not difficult to see what must be the consequences when democracy embarks upon a course of planning. The goal of the planning will be described by some such vague term as 'the general welfare'. There will be no real agreement as to the ends to be attained, and the effect of the people's agreeing that there must be central planning, without agreeing on the ends, will be rather as if a group of people were to commit themselves to take a journey together without agreeing where they want to go: with the result that they may all have to make a journey which most of them do not want at all.
____________— F A Hayek, The Road to Serfdom (May, 1945 Reader’s Digest Condensed Version)

Early on, Mussolini thought the New Deal was Fascism.

34 posted on 02/17/2020 9:00:13 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: Steven Scharf
Implied to me, the gallop poll is NOT looking up party registration, and they are not asking party registration. They are merely asking what one considers oneself. Thus, the positive word "independent" versus the apathetic "unenrolled". Therefore, without the ability to imbue party leaning from "independent", I removed it from the graph, as not really helpful. Of course, they make up the largest segment.

It's interesting, as I am able to and do look thru a long voting history of population segments, that party leaning is EXTREMELY obvious of the unenrolleds. Indeed, party registration cannot be faked (other than a few dedicated "operation chaos" adherents); with primary ballots taken and considered along with attendance record, an analyst can get a strong feeling about a voter and a voter population.

35 posted on 02/17/2020 9:01:54 AM PST by C210N
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Stalin pretty much had the same system as Hitler. He was in fact a real “National Socialist”, in fact he advocated total Russification of the Soviet Union, and favored ethnic Russians, although he was Georgian, (as Hitler favored Germans, although he was Austrian).


36 posted on 02/17/2020 9:04:39 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Just in case you missed this one.


37 posted on 02/17/2020 9:05:42 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: dfwgator
If we had a decent education system, more people would realize that. The Nazis and Stalinists were very, very similar. Trotsky was the outlier -- he wanted international socialism. Stalin had him killed, but the Globalists are basically the Trotskyites today. And they hate anything that supports nationalism in any form.
38 posted on 02/17/2020 9:08:52 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Stalin hated Jews as well, see “The Doctor’s Plot”.

And I am convinced Stalin knew which areas of the Soviet Union contained the most Jews, and left those areas undefended for the Nazis to move in and solve his “Jewish Problem” for him.


39 posted on 02/17/2020 9:10:23 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
I pointed out: "Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - is naiveté towards government.

Your reply,

Once they gain power, then they will ban the cynicism and you will be forced to "love the State”.
misses the point which Thomas Paine pointed out in 1776:
SOME writers [read, socialists]have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins.
Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness;

the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices.

The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions.

The first is a patron, the last a punisher.

Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one . . .
For were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no other lawgiver; but that not being the case, he finds it necessary to surrender up a part of his property to furnish means for the protection of the rest . . . — Thomas Paine, Common Sense (1776)

40 posted on 02/17/2020 9:14:29 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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