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Why Severe Social Distancing Might Actually Result In More Coronavirus Deaths
The Federalist ^ | April 3, 2020 | Anominous

Posted on 04/03/2020 5:25:28 AM PDT by Kaslin

What the media and policymakers are not telling us is that the longer we delay the development of herd immunity, the more elderly or high-risk people will become infected and die.


COVID-19 is severe. There is no doubt about that. We are now also learning that it is not a matter of if but when many of us will get coronavirus, whether we develop symptoms or not. Our only hope is to “flatten the curve,” relieve stress on the medical system, and wait for a vaccine.

So, we isolate ourselves and stay at home. As a result, the economy is being devastated. Many people are out of work and unhappy. We accept these inconveniences to allow the medical system to handle the many people who become infected.

But what if I were to tell you that our current isolation strategies may actually result in more deaths from coronavirus itself? I’ll explain.

The only way we are going to beat COVID-19 is by developing something called “herd immunity.” Herd immunity basically means that once a certain percentage of the population develops immunity to a virus, the rest of the population will also be protected. That percentage varies, but is often around 60-70 percent. This is why we don’t need to vaccinate 100 percent of people to eradicate or severely limit the spread of infectious diseases (e.g., polio, smallpox, and measles).

The media and policymakers seem to have accepted that we will depend on herd immunity to defeat COVID-19. If we had a vaccine, everything would be different. But since a vaccine is not available, we must wait for enough people to be exposed and develop immunity.

In the meantime, we are being told to quarantine as much as possible so the medical system can deal with the many people who become infected. Simple, right? Unfortunately, it’s more complicated than this.

What the media and policymakers are not telling us is that the longer we delay the development of herd immunity, the more elderly or high-risk people will become infected and die, even if we were to maintain the quarantine indefinitely. Why is this the case?

The reason is that only young and healthy people contribute to herd immunity. Elderly and medically ill people generally do not contribute to herd immunity because their immune systems are not strong enough to develop an immune response.

This is not new or breaking science. To illustrate what happens when you don’t have herd immunity, look no further than the outbreaks we’ve had in areas where that immunity has dipped below the necessary levels.

In 2019, there was a massive outbreak of the measles in New York City for that reason. In 2014, a measles outbreak in Disneyland sent the number of cases to a 20-year high. Without herd immunity, where enough people have had the disease to avoid driving major outbreaks, future spikes will likely be much bigger.

Indeed, the Imperial College modeling says as much: “Once interventions are relaxed (in the example in Figure 3, from September onwards), infections begin to rise, resulting in a predicted larger peak epidemic later in the year: The more successful a strategy is at temporary suppression, the larger the later epidemic is predicted to be in the absence of vaccination, due to lesser build-up of herd immunity.”

Importantly, in this report, the Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team’s partial quarantine did not include isolating high-risk individuals or those infected (!) from their households, which would be critical for a partial quarantine to work. In fact, in their models, the elderly and medically ill people had more contact with everyone in their household (i.e., except in their one scenario in which only cases are quarantined, which is not an adequate strategy by itself). This would greatly bias their findings in favor of a full quarantine.

Therefore, if we stop the quarantine for all low-risk people now, herd immunity would develop more quickly. If we also were to keep the elderly and high-risk people isolated from everyone else during this time, including their own family members (i.e., a partial quarantine), we would save countless lives, while also decreasing the stress on the medical system.

This strategy would also limit the stress on the medical system caused by the fear and panic induced by the full quarantine, a variable that has not been considered in most models and to which any physician on the frontlines can attest. And there would be limited impact on the economy.

Furthermore, limiting isolation to only high-risk individuals and cases would be much more practical and likely to work since the more people need to be quarantined, the less effective is the quarantine. It would also still relieve much of the stress on the medical system since most of the severe outcomes occur in the elderly, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

A partial quarantine would still cause some initial stress on the medical system since the overall number of young or healthy individuals who would contract COVID-19 will not change with either a full or partial quarantine. The vast majority of these cases would be mild, however. Therefore, there may still be a slightly higher use of the medical system up front if we move to a partial quarantine as described herein. This could also lead to some deaths.

Herein lies the dilemma, or Sophie’s choice, of dealing with COVID-19. A full quarantine will result in the deaths of more elderly and medically ill people because more of them will become infected. A partial quarantine would likely result in a greater number of mild infections in young and healthy individuals upfront (but not total).

How many more elderly or medically ill people will die due to a full quarantine? It is hard to say, but a conservative estimate would be 5-10 times the number of young and healthy people who may die from a partial quarantine, based on fatality rates published by the CDC.

Fortunately, I am not responsible for making policy.

The author is an academic physician and researcher at an Ivy League institution in New York City.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; economicshutdown; epidemic; herdimmunity; isolation; lockdowns; publichealth; quarantine; shelterinplace; shutdown; social; socialdistancing; vaccines
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To: rb22982

If you are correct then Trump should be plowing all of our resources into expanding drug therapies. Not producing 40,000 ventilators to keep Andrew Cuomo’s trap shut.


41 posted on 04/03/2020 6:32:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: 9YearLurker
My husband and I are both senior citizens, he will be 83 this month, and I will turn 79 in August. He used to drink a lot when he was younger and there was not a evening when he didn't go to the bars and get drunk. I told him many times that I have nothing against it if he wants to drink beer at home, but he didn't want to hear about it. Anyway he doesn't drink anymore and doesn't go to bars anymore either, all he does sit in his chair and watches TV shows that he could have watched years ago.

I am handicapped and have trouble walking and can only walk with a cane, and this very slowly. I have a degenerative disc disease, and a degenerative Hip joint disease. Our son used to take me every 2 weeks to the Commissary at Fort Campbell, Ky to shop for groceries, but now because of virus and because he doesn't have a Military ID, he can not go into the store. (his drivers license is not enough). So he goes to our Walmart Superstore which is less than 2 miles from our house, but he doesn't let me go with him. At the commissary I used to take a small cart that I was able to push and put in what I needed and he used a big cart and filled it up

42 posted on 04/03/2020 6:37:12 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I believe that unless an effort is made to at least build pockets of herd immunity now the death toll among the young and healthy will be much higher when the virus reemerges.


43 posted on 04/03/2020 6:38:09 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: rb22982

They’ve already applied for “the next step”, expedited human trials from the FDA. I would hope the FDA gives much quicker approval than a few months.


44 posted on 04/03/2020 6:39:51 AM PDT by Varda
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To: ptsal

Boy are you right. I tried to do a search and am normally ver good at it, but I couldn’t find anything.


45 posted on 04/03/2020 6:45:48 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: DoodleBob
The problem is we won't know who's right until it's over.

Really? I think not. We will NEVER know because the same two groups will continue to argue. If deaths are far less, the panic group will say, "see, our response measures worked." The other group will say, "over-reaction." Nothing will be resolved. The real problem is that we have allowed the "experts" and their leftist progressives to have free reign to now leverage the fear of death for political gain. This happened right under our noses. . .and, sadly, this genie ain't going back into the bottle. Stay tuned for the next panic. . and the one after that!

46 posted on 04/03/2020 6:47:22 AM PDT by McBuff (To be, rather than to seem)
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To: rb22982

I have fuzz brain but I do get what you mean. We want the virus to have as few people to infect. There are just two ways to accomplish that. 1. So many people die that there are too few left for it to spread. 2. Develop immunity, either through a vaccine or catching it and recovering.

One way to think about it is to consider how a lot parents dealt with outbreaks of chicken pox before a vaccine was available. It was thought better to let a child catch the virus and recover gaining immunity rather than risk them getting it at as and teen or adult when the disease has more serious complications.


47 posted on 04/03/2020 6:48:29 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: McBuff

Yup. This is really all about the bureaucracy playing CYA and constructing excuses for itself no matter how this turns out.

By rights there out to be investigators ripping through the CDC and rolling heads. They’ve discovered an immune response for THAT, just not for this virus.


48 posted on 04/03/2020 6:51:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: bramps

The deaths were down by 81. 1049 the day before and 968 yesterday.


49 posted on 04/03/2020 6:52:15 AM PDT by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: CincyRichieRich

I think some people like cosplaying Walking Dead Season 3.


50 posted on 04/03/2020 6:53:49 AM PDT by hcmama
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To: Kaslin
... We are now also learning that it is not a matter of if but when many of us will get coronavirus....

So, everyone on earth will contract the coronavirus?!? This type of opinion inspired hyperbole - expressed as fact is not helpful.

51 posted on 04/03/2020 6:57:22 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord

“Everyone Has AIDS!”


52 posted on 04/03/2020 6:58:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CaptainK

I posted the 968 from yesterday. I was asking where the poster got 900.


53 posted on 04/03/2020 6:58:48 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: McBuff
I disagree.

True, some men, you just can't reach: some people STILL debate whether WWII was justified, if dropping The Bomb was wise, and many people think Prohibition is a great idea still.

I agree, the authority bias has been ridiculous. But the truth comes out and most people will accept it, even if MSNBC still has 15% of the viewing public.

54 posted on 04/03/2020 7:04:43 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: JesusIsLord

“So, everyone on earth will contract the coronavirus? This type of opinion inspired hyperbole - expressed as fact is not helpful. “

The post you replied to says “many” not “everyone”, this type of hyperbole is not helpful.


55 posted on 04/03/2020 7:04:55 AM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: bramps

Corona tracker has it at 915 last 24 hours.


56 posted on 04/03/2020 7:19:27 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: bramps

I think the poster was rounding off figures.


57 posted on 04/03/2020 7:24:19 AM PDT by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: CaptainK

I think the poster was rounding off figures.
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968 rounds to 900?


58 posted on 04/03/2020 7:28:10 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: JesusIsLord
The author does not say that everyone will get the virus.

Can't you read? Many does not mean every one. *rme*

59 posted on 04/03/2020 7:36:23 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: PUGACHEV

To compare the USA with Ecuador is specious. They have a different (and very poor) culture with minimal standards of public or personal hygiene. Their medical system is woefully inadequate...except for the very wealthy. The leftists here want to make us like them so they have obfuscated reality, panicking many here. Yes, this somewhat serious...especially for the elderly vulnerable with co-morbid conditions. No, it isn’t that we are all going to die if we don’t give in to the leftist “transformation” of our society into a leftist cesspool. Crush all leftists! They are socioipathic malignancies.


60 posted on 04/03/2020 8:01:56 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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