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Why Severe Social Distancing Might Actually Result In More Coronavirus Deaths
The Federalist ^ | April 3, 2020 | Anominous

Posted on 04/03/2020 5:25:28 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

God bless you for all you’ve been through and that you are still kicking. Sounds like you’ve got a good son.

Walmart’s online delivery is still quite good in these times for storable pantry foods.


61 posted on 04/03/2020 8:05:56 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: rb22982
Thx for that example. Helps a lot but I have some questions

In your example, are you saying that a person carrying the virus will infect only 2 others REGARDLESS of how many people are exposed to him? Or are you saying that given "shelter in place and social distancing" rules in place, the "average" infection rate is 2 infected for each carrier because the carrier will only come into contact with X number of vulnerable (i.e., non-immune) people before they recover and are no longer carriers?

And are you assuming that people who recover from the virus are now immune (this has not yet been established in fact IIRC. There have been situations where the virus has recurred a 2nd time in people who have recovered from a 1st bout)?

Thx again for helping me understand this.

62 posted on 04/03/2020 8:13:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Kaslin

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63 posted on 04/03/2020 8:13:34 AM PDT by sauropod (Pelosi Galore: We know she's lying when we see her dentures flying.)
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To: RoosterRedux
All governments are acting on the belief that most/nearly all who are exposed to this will become immune, otherwise there is no reason at all to attempt what we are doing as you can't bend the curve forever - even a few months of this might bankrupt the country and cause a depression worse than the 1930s. The fact that there has been so few reinfections seem to indicate it will hold true here (and some reinfections may simply not have actually died off entirely)

R0 is a measure of expected community spread for each person that gets a virus. The common flu has an R0 of about 1.3, which is to say that each person that gets the flu will infect 1.3 people (in the winter time, R0 falls off significantly in the summer as most viruses don't like heat). Depending on the R0 level, once you reach 50-70% of the population is immune, community spread is nearly impossible for most viruses as the spread drops significantly through basic statistics (ie R0 of 1.5 at 50% pop would be 0.75 and would die out, r0 at 3 at 70% is 0.9 and dies out). The higher the R0, the higher % of population that you need to be immune (60-80%). Once R0 goes below zero, it begins to die. However, if R0 goes below zero due to non-natural supression measures like we are doing, as soon as you stop those supression measures, the R0 returns to its original pace (likely 2.5-3 for this virus) and off to the races again.

R0 can vary based on transmission type, heat, humidity and other factors (sanitation, etc)

64 posted on 04/03/2020 9:02:45 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

Thx so much for this. I will spend the next few hours trying to get this into my thick skull.;-)


65 posted on 04/03/2020 9:14:27 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Kaslin

I always take advice from someone named anonymous.


66 posted on 04/03/2020 9:33:29 AM PDT by moovova
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To: RoosterRedux

NP - and my last two sentences in first paragraph should say once R0 goes below 1, not zero. Once its reached zero no one is getting infected!


67 posted on 04/03/2020 9:36:16 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: bray

Up over 1,300 today. Still no flattening of the curve,


68 posted on 04/03/2020 5:43:13 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: DoodleBob

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/whoa-dr-fauci-2017-president-trump-will-challenged-surprise-global-disease-outbreak-video/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/wow-dr-fauci-now-says-cant-really-rely-upon-models-wth/


69 posted on 04/03/2020 9:04:39 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Be still, and know that I am God...Psalm 46:10)
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Good find!

Thanks for posting.

Sharing.


70 posted on 04/03/2020 9:12:51 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

I agree...Fauci isn’t to be trusted. He’s not dumb, but he’s a career bureaucrat interested chiefly in securing more funding for his dept. One day, he authors a decent article in the NEJM. A few days later, he’s hysterical on NBC. A few days later, he’s normal on Fox Business. And so on and back and forth.


71 posted on 04/03/2020 9:32:50 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: nomorelurker
"We are now also learning that it is not a matter of if but when many of us will get coronavirus".

Like many fake-news statements, this statement misleads with the help of hyperbole .

The writer wants to give the impression that he's stumbled upon some new revelation when he says, "We are now also learning that it is not a matter of if but when ...". The fact is that we have ALWAYS known that many will get coronavirus. For the writer to say or suggest that we are just now understanding/learning this reality is indeed hyperbole - a figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect.

72 posted on 04/05/2020 3:57:35 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: Kaslin
Can't you read...

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73 posted on 04/05/2020 4:00:51 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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