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Why Severe Social Distancing Might Actually Result In More Coronavirus Deaths
The Federalist ^ | April 3, 2020 | Anominous

Posted on 04/03/2020 5:25:28 AM PDT by Kaslin

What the media and policymakers are not telling us is that the longer we delay the development of herd immunity, the more elderly or high-risk people will become infected and die.


COVID-19 is severe. There is no doubt about that. We are now also learning that it is not a matter of if but when many of us will get coronavirus, whether we develop symptoms or not. Our only hope is to “flatten the curve,” relieve stress on the medical system, and wait for a vaccine.

So, we isolate ourselves and stay at home. As a result, the economy is being devastated. Many people are out of work and unhappy. We accept these inconveniences to allow the medical system to handle the many people who become infected.

But what if I were to tell you that our current isolation strategies may actually result in more deaths from coronavirus itself? I’ll explain.

The only way we are going to beat COVID-19 is by developing something called “herd immunity.” Herd immunity basically means that once a certain percentage of the population develops immunity to a virus, the rest of the population will also be protected. That percentage varies, but is often around 60-70 percent. This is why we don’t need to vaccinate 100 percent of people to eradicate or severely limit the spread of infectious diseases (e.g., polio, smallpox, and measles).

The media and policymakers seem to have accepted that we will depend on herd immunity to defeat COVID-19. If we had a vaccine, everything would be different. But since a vaccine is not available, we must wait for enough people to be exposed and develop immunity.

In the meantime, we are being told to quarantine as much as possible so the medical system can deal with the many people who become infected. Simple, right? Unfortunately, it’s more complicated than this.

What the media and policymakers are not telling us is that the longer we delay the development of herd immunity, the more elderly or high-risk people will become infected and die, even if we were to maintain the quarantine indefinitely. Why is this the case?

The reason is that only young and healthy people contribute to herd immunity. Elderly and medically ill people generally do not contribute to herd immunity because their immune systems are not strong enough to develop an immune response.

This is not new or breaking science. To illustrate what happens when you don’t have herd immunity, look no further than the outbreaks we’ve had in areas where that immunity has dipped below the necessary levels.

In 2019, there was a massive outbreak of the measles in New York City for that reason. In 2014, a measles outbreak in Disneyland sent the number of cases to a 20-year high. Without herd immunity, where enough people have had the disease to avoid driving major outbreaks, future spikes will likely be much bigger.

Indeed, the Imperial College modeling says as much: “Once interventions are relaxed (in the example in Figure 3, from September onwards), infections begin to rise, resulting in a predicted larger peak epidemic later in the year: The more successful a strategy is at temporary suppression, the larger the later epidemic is predicted to be in the absence of vaccination, due to lesser build-up of herd immunity.”

Importantly, in this report, the Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team’s partial quarantine did not include isolating high-risk individuals or those infected (!) from their households, which would be critical for a partial quarantine to work. In fact, in their models, the elderly and medically ill people had more contact with everyone in their household (i.e., except in their one scenario in which only cases are quarantined, which is not an adequate strategy by itself). This would greatly bias their findings in favor of a full quarantine.

Therefore, if we stop the quarantine for all low-risk people now, herd immunity would develop more quickly. If we also were to keep the elderly and high-risk people isolated from everyone else during this time, including their own family members (i.e., a partial quarantine), we would save countless lives, while also decreasing the stress on the medical system.

This strategy would also limit the stress on the medical system caused by the fear and panic induced by the full quarantine, a variable that has not been considered in most models and to which any physician on the frontlines can attest. And there would be limited impact on the economy.

Furthermore, limiting isolation to only high-risk individuals and cases would be much more practical and likely to work since the more people need to be quarantined, the less effective is the quarantine. It would also still relieve much of the stress on the medical system since most of the severe outcomes occur in the elderly, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

A partial quarantine would still cause some initial stress on the medical system since the overall number of young or healthy individuals who would contract COVID-19 will not change with either a full or partial quarantine. The vast majority of these cases would be mild, however. Therefore, there may still be a slightly higher use of the medical system up front if we move to a partial quarantine as described herein. This could also lead to some deaths.

Herein lies the dilemma, or Sophie’s choice, of dealing with COVID-19. A full quarantine will result in the deaths of more elderly and medically ill people because more of them will become infected. A partial quarantine would likely result in a greater number of mild infections in young and healthy individuals upfront (but not total).

How many more elderly or medically ill people will die due to a full quarantine? It is hard to say, but a conservative estimate would be 5-10 times the number of young and healthy people who may die from a partial quarantine, based on fatality rates published by the CDC.

Fortunately, I am not responsible for making policy.

The author is an academic physician and researcher at an Ivy League institution in New York City.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; economicshutdown; epidemic; herdimmunity; isolation; lockdowns; publichealth; quarantine; shelterinplace; shutdown; social; socialdistancing; vaccines
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To: Kaslin

God bless you for all you’ve been through and that you are still kicking. Sounds like you’ve got a good son.

Walmart’s online delivery is still quite good in these times for storable pantry foods.


61 posted on 04/03/2020 8:05:56 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: rb22982
Thx for that example. Helps a lot but I have some questions

In your example, are you saying that a person carrying the virus will infect only 2 others REGARDLESS of how many people are exposed to him? Or are you saying that given "shelter in place and social distancing" rules in place, the "average" infection rate is 2 infected for each carrier because the carrier will only come into contact with X number of vulnerable (i.e., non-immune) people before they recover and are no longer carriers?

And are you assuming that people who recover from the virus are now immune (this has not yet been established in fact IIRC. There have been situations where the virus has recurred a 2nd time in people who have recovered from a 1st bout)?

Thx again for helping me understand this.

62 posted on 04/03/2020 8:13:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Kaslin

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63 posted on 04/03/2020 8:13:34 AM PDT by sauropod (Pelosi Galore: We know she's lying when we see her dentures flying.)
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To: RoosterRedux
All governments are acting on the belief that most/nearly all who are exposed to this will become immune, otherwise there is no reason at all to attempt what we are doing as you can't bend the curve forever - even a few months of this might bankrupt the country and cause a depression worse than the 1930s. The fact that there has been so few reinfections seem to indicate it will hold true here (and some reinfections may simply not have actually died off entirely)

R0 is a measure of expected community spread for each person that gets a virus. The common flu has an R0 of about 1.3, which is to say that each person that gets the flu will infect 1.3 people (in the winter time, R0 falls off significantly in the summer as most viruses don't like heat). Depending on the R0 level, once you reach 50-70% of the population is immune, community spread is nearly impossible for most viruses as the spread drops significantly through basic statistics (ie R0 of 1.5 at 50% pop would be 0.75 and would die out, r0 at 3 at 70% is 0.9 and dies out). The higher the R0, the higher % of population that you need to be immune (60-80%). Once R0 goes below zero, it begins to die. However, if R0 goes below zero due to non-natural supression measures like we are doing, as soon as you stop those supression measures, the R0 returns to its original pace (likely 2.5-3 for this virus) and off to the races again.

R0 can vary based on transmission type, heat, humidity and other factors (sanitation, etc)

64 posted on 04/03/2020 9:02:45 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

Thx so much for this. I will spend the next few hours trying to get this into my thick skull.;-)


65 posted on 04/03/2020 9:14:27 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Kaslin

I always take advice from someone named anonymous.


66 posted on 04/03/2020 9:33:29 AM PDT by moovova
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To: RoosterRedux

NP - and my last two sentences in first paragraph should say once R0 goes below 1, not zero. Once its reached zero no one is getting infected!


67 posted on 04/03/2020 9:36:16 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: bray

Up over 1,300 today. Still no flattening of the curve,


68 posted on 04/03/2020 5:43:13 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: DoodleBob

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/whoa-dr-fauci-2017-president-trump-will-challenged-surprise-global-disease-outbreak-video/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/wow-dr-fauci-now-says-cant-really-rely-upon-models-wth/


69 posted on 04/03/2020 9:04:39 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Be still, and know that I am God...Psalm 46:10)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Good find!

Thanks for posting.

Sharing.


70 posted on 04/03/2020 9:12:51 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

I agree...Fauci isn’t to be trusted. He’s not dumb, but he’s a career bureaucrat interested chiefly in securing more funding for his dept. One day, he authors a decent article in the NEJM. A few days later, he’s hysterical on NBC. A few days later, he’s normal on Fox Business. And so on and back and forth.


71 posted on 04/03/2020 9:32:50 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: nomorelurker
"We are now also learning that it is not a matter of if but when many of us will get coronavirus".

Like many fake-news statements, this statement misleads with the help of hyperbole .

The writer wants to give the impression that he's stumbled upon some new revelation when he says, "We are now also learning that it is not a matter of if but when ...". The fact is that we have ALWAYS known that many will get coronavirus. For the writer to say or suggest that we are just now understanding/learning this reality is indeed hyperbole - a figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect.

72 posted on 04/05/2020 3:57:35 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: Kaslin
Can't you read...

Re: Post 72

73 posted on 04/05/2020 4:00:51 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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