Posted on 04/03/2020 5:25:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
LA Times reporter wrote that 93 had died in Equidor. They alleged “ dying in the streets” are unclaimed indigents that no one wants to handle or take care of.
‘But the other half of my medical friends and expert guests say this is an overreaction.’
it certainly is, or, I should say it appears to be; but that’s as moot a point as has ever existed, since the decision to shut it all down has been made, and must be played out to the end to avoid losing face...
High blood pressure, diabetes, and cardiovascular disease are so commonplace everyone likely knows somebody with at least one of these maladies.They are also the “underlying conditions” most associated with severe cases of COVID-19
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/03/these-underlying-conditions-make-coronavirus-more-severe-and-they-are-surprisingly-common/
Top underlying health conditions in COVID-19 deaths include diabetes, obesity
As COVID-19 cases continue to rise across Louisiana and deaths jump by record numbers, many deaths are attributed to underlying health conditions.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/top-underlying-health-conditions-in-covid-19-deaths-include-diabetes-obesity/ar-BB11OhMe
Age is not the only risk for severe coronavirus disease
WASHINGTON — Older people remain most at risk of dying as the new coronavirus continues its rampage around the globe, but they’re far from the only ones vulnerable. One of many mysteries: Men seem to be faring worse than women. https://www.effinghamdailynews.com/news/age-is-not-the-only-risk-for-severe-coronavirus-disease/article_a95ca128-738f-11ea-b7f1-979100d2700f.html
That's an illogical statement on the face of it.
Not saying its not true, but evidence or reasoning for why the rest of the population will be protected has not been presented (in this sentence or in those which follow in the article--unless I missed it).
He is right, but I’d like to add that social isolation is unnatural. For elderly in hospitals/nursing “homes,” it is worse than death. Many elderly are dying alone, having had only the opportunity tell the staff to convey a message of love to their family. If an elderly person goes to the hospital with this disease, it’s probably all over.
Another dumb@ss opinion.
The science behind this has been discussed by the Flubros- more people need to be exposed to the virus.
In hindsight it would be better to get the virus early when you could get a ventilator at the hospital.
Deaths down nearly 100 yesterday to 900.
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I see 968 at this site: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ .
Which site is 900 from?
Eg: If a disease has an R0 of 2.0 (ie infects 2 people for each person that gets it), but 70% of the population is immune either because of vaccine or already has had the virus and has antibodies, the R0 is then reduced by 70% (2.0 * (1-.7) = 0.6). Since the R0 is then lower than 1, the virus dies off as the replacement rate is below the stock rate. Simple math.
“Bug Chasers” Unite!
He’s correct if nothing changes but that’s not going to happen. First there is a vaccine on the way. Watch the UPMC (University of Pittsburgh) press conference, that was an academic show of “we have it and we know it”. The first human trials will be really soon.
Second the ramp up of production of hydroxychloroquine is just starting. Mylan pharmaceutical (WV) and others should be totally ramped up in a week. I don’t know why but NYers have to go to a hospital to get it. Others should be able to get a script from the family physician.
I don’t believe this economic shutdown will last much longer once effective treament is available to all with the vaccine following. I hope Trump the business man trusts his instincts on this.
Not only is this opinion correct, it also misses discussing the risk that happened in the Spanish flu in that only the most virulent strains survive and the second wave kills far more people than it would have otherwise. This is what happened with the Spanish Flu.
Do you have any links to those videos about Ecuador?
If you make it to a ventilator, odds are you are going to die. The discharge rate if you get on a ventilator is about 85% in the US so far from COVID19. If the 1 year survival rate works for these like it does for other ventilator patience, 92-95% will have died within a year. The key is to not need a ventilator.
It has to do with the chain of transmission. If an infected person spreads the virus to two other people when there is no herd immunity then that rate is lowered as the herd gains immunity. What may have been transmission to two people now becomes transmission to one or less.
Maybe a more mathematically inclined person can explain it better.
No, human trials are not starting soon, JNJ just two days ago said they expected human trials to start in 9 to 12 months and be available in 15 to 18 months. And that’s assuming it works (safely)
This isn’t going to go over well with the data worshippers here at Free Republic.
And yet at its heart is data...
Not worth my time to read. The flu-bro’s are working hard to kill envy.
Not to be unkind, but how many people drop dead in the streets of Ecuador on a normal day?
I have a friend who has done mission work in Mexico and corpses lying in the streets were sort of an every day thing there.
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