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Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. to Build Advanced Chip Factory in Arizona…
Conservative Treehouse ^ | 14 May 2020 | Sundance

Posted on 05/14/2020 6:02:29 PM PDT by Candor7

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To: Spktyr

Where does Nvidia produce their graphics chips, outsourced?


41 posted on 05/14/2020 7:34:36 PM PDT by bakkentom
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To: wastedyears

Why?


42 posted on 05/14/2020 7:38:54 PM PDT by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: bakkentom

Most of them are outsourced to TSMC and Samsung, among others. They have very low volume fab capability of their own, mostly for prototyping and exemplar production.


43 posted on 05/14/2020 7:44:18 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Much of the move to Red China happened after WTO and MFN status, both of which would be after the '80s. I imagine Texas Instruments once made a lot more stuff in Texas than it does now. The chips I remember said "El Salvador" on them.

I was thinking about manufacturing. Obviously, there are a lot of IT jobs in all the big states, but not nearly as much manufacturing as there used to be.
44 posted on 05/14/2020 7:48:58 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Candor7
Ping to big news in computer chip US Domestic production TSMC. (Remember , the Taipei press said it wouldn’t happen.)
President Trump is winning.

Yes, he is!
Life is good again.

45 posted on 05/14/2020 7:51:05 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Dr. Sivana

Yes, but the Carrollton production gear went in part to *Ireland*. China wasn’t the first outsourcing country for US companies. I was also pointing out that local asshats can also drive off industry, so we shouldn’t just be blaming ‘greedy executives’ or ‘foreign blandishments.’ Some of the blame must be placed on the people who run off industry.

I won’t disagree about there being less tech manufacture in the States than there used to be. I was simply pointing out that Apple’s Austin, TX investment wasn’t just a tiny marginal one to make the Mac Pro, nor was it really just recent.


46 posted on 05/14/2020 7:53:35 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Candor7; All

Every time an American looked at an item for where it was made in it came from China. Now China’s reliance making everything was being threatened by a change in leadership in America which was a major consumer of those products. When Americans hailed their leaders decision to make many of them in their country US. Their politburo worried.

Worse yet opponents to the Chinese regime in power had its citizens protesting its policies , as in Hong Kong, since that change in American leadership wave the American flag and present his name when doing so. All of which presented those in power the need to destroy that leader Donald Trump.

Would a runaway plague created by a nation which could threaten populations of an enemy cause them to react by demanding extreme restriction of movement by its population to prevent its spread ? Thus wind up fragmenting its economy and create defeat for that leader’s upcoming election.

The way this whole thing developed starting with the Italian fashion industry areas controlled by the Chinese commies hit by a runaway CCWV (Chinese Communist Wuhan Virus) breakout occurred in Wuhan the politburo closed off Wuhan but did not warn the Italian Socialist government or the Pope with whom the Chinese government had good relations with.

But certainly violated that understanding when the socialists should have been informed and allowed to deny those Chinese workers who replaced Italians in those factories taken over by the Chinese travel to and from China particularly for their New Year while this was occurring.Where they seem to have done almost the same here with Smithfield Pork processing after the Chinese were hit with swine flu which destroyed their pork industry by their takeover of Smithfield Pork processing. When learning of the Wuhan shutdown Trump cut off China air travel with the exception of only allowing American citizens returning..But was immediately attacked by CNN and the alphabet media outlets as a racist Republican action.

Sure looks suspicious particularly when crews of US naval vessels somehow wind up being infected by it while visiting certain Asian ports before that showed up in Italy.

But to stop the return of manufacturing of products back to the US that went to China. China backers here who’s family members are making millions from China through their political connections will be hit hard are also claiming that Trump’s alleged stock ownership in a quinine pills maker claim its a controlling interest in a product to be totally ineffective and when used requires a severe restriction of movement when near a possible carrier known as a shutdown because of its alleged rapid transmission spread by our media.


47 posted on 05/14/2020 7:55:50 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: Spktyr
Yes, but the Carrollton production gear went in part to *Ireland*.

I'm for tariffs, but they must be thought through. Many years ago some company that made laptop LCD screens in Oregon lobbied and got a tariff on LCD screens from Ireland imposed. After the tariff, (I think it was Apple) just started having the whole dang laptop made in Ireland to avoid the tariff.

We also import Coca-Cola from Mexico in part because sugar tariffs make HFCS cheaper to use in U.S. Coke, but bottled stuff with real sugar from south of the border is not subject to the sugar tariff.
48 posted on 05/14/2020 7:58:51 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: bakkentom

Same company. TSMC.


49 posted on 05/14/2020 8:12:48 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Candor7; All

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/15/tsmc-to-build-us-chip-factory.html


50 posted on 05/14/2020 8:14:16 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Candor7

Commentary on what U.S.-based entity will foot the bill for this facility:

TSMC Building a 5nm Fab in Arizona as the U.S. Government Gets Involved

https://www.techpowerup.com/267133/tsmc-building-a-5nm-fab-in-arizona-as-the-u-s-government-gets-involved


51 posted on 05/14/2020 8:17:35 PM PDT by diatomite (Libs, the MSM, journos, actors - all are on the low-end of the Dunning-Kreuger effect)
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To: Candor7

Buy CDNS, MU, AMAT, ONTO


52 posted on 05/14/2020 8:48:41 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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To: Candor7

Buy CDNS, MU, AMAT, ONTO


53 posted on 05/14/2020 8:49:06 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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To: Paladin2

“Ariz. seems to be a long term popular venue to build chip factories.

Is climate a strong factor in building and operating same?”

Congressman Andy Biggs told me that despite their political differences the entire AZ congressional delegation and Senators are lock-step in doing what is best for AZ and that includes bringing businesses to the state.


54 posted on 05/14/2020 8:56:02 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: chrisinoc

A different but perfectly valid interpretation of climate....


55 posted on 05/14/2020 8:58:40 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Dr. Sivana

They should also not be used to allow domestic industries to become fat and complacent. Harley got a protective tariff in the 80s, decided to market retro and nostalgia instead of actually competing technically, and now they’re bleeding out as all their tech is 80s level at best and they’re running out of customers willing to buy their crap.


56 posted on 05/14/2020 9:17:44 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: bakkentom

Arizona is high desert. We are not Saharan but Sonoran.


57 posted on 05/14/2020 9:19:10 PM PDT by Citizen Soldier
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To: AFreeBird

We are talking about TSMC and their advanced 5 and 7nm process.
Mainland does have chip fabs but nothing really advanced.
5nm and 7nm is REALLY hard to do and VERY expensive.
Global Foundry tried to make it work and abandoned it.
EUV lithography on layers below M5.
The building must be very stable to make it work.

There are only three companies who do advanced semi fabrication.
TSMC (Qualcomm, Apple and I think AMD)
Samsung (IBM and others)
Intel


58 posted on 05/14/2020 10:22:06 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Spktyr
Due to a lot of brain drain and stupid decisions in the last couple decades, most commodity chips are not designed in the US but elsewhere. There are consequences when your universities are churning out mostly people with gender studies and underwater basket weaving degrees.

Let's not forget how many of our STEM students are foreign, and have their loyalties elsewhere. This needs to stop.

59 posted on 05/15/2020 4:23:51 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Zathras

Lack of earthquakes another reason for fabs built in AZ. Very expensive equipment and expensive wafers in process damaged and thrown out.


60 posted on 05/15/2020 4:52:25 AM PDT by bakkentom
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