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Fauci says COVID-19 vaccine unlikely to bring sufficient herd immunity with many Americans saying they won’t get vaccinated.
KTLA NEWS ^ | June 28, 2020 | CNN Wire

Posted on 06/29/2020 8:35:48 AM PDT by L.A.Justice

Dr. Anthony Fauci says he would “settle” for a COVID-19 vaccine that’s 70% to 75% effective, but that this incomplete protection, coupled with the fact that many Americans say they won’t get a coronavirus vaccine, makes it “unlikely” that the US will achieve sufficient levels of immunity to quell the outbreak.

With government support, three coronavirus vaccines are expected to be studied in large-scale clinical trials in the next three months.

“The best we’ve ever done is measles, which is 97 to 98 percent effective,” said Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “That would be wonderful if we get there. I don’t think we will. I would settle for [a] 70, 75% effective vaccine.”

A CNN poll last month found one-third of Americans said they would not try to get vaccinated against COVID, even if the vaccine is widely available and low cost.

In an interview Friday, CNN asked Fauci whether a vaccine with 70% to 75% efficacy taken by only two-thirds of the population would provide herd immunity to the coronavirus.

“No — unlikely,” he answered.

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KEYWORDS: coronavirus; fauci; fauxi; noaccountability; retroviruses4all
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To: 9YearLurker

This task force was a disaster! Trumps constant praising of Fauci and Birx emboldened these Dem Govs and Mayors. I watched these stupid briefings asking myself why he was praising these two idiots when they were wrong about freaking everything! It also didn’t help when Trump kept calling it the “silent killer!” Good grief, who was advising him? Probably Jared and Ivanka!


41 posted on 06/29/2020 9:34:02 AM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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To: L.A.Justice; All
Well if you won't wear a mask either how do you expect to end the pandemic & restore the economy?

That's the question anti-vaxxers and the anti-maskers have to answer.

I get my annual flu shot but won't be first in line for a covid vaccine. I wear a mask, required by work, or if I have to go out, and social distance. As an "essential workers" I wouldn't be surprised if I've already had it but I don't know either way.

I'm out and about watching groups of young adults and "Karens" & flubros with no masks or masks as chin straps and all I can think is how willfully reckless they are.

42 posted on 06/29/2020 9:35:19 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Vote Giant Meteor in 2020)
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To: webheart
You won’tget it from a cashier at Costco. They are spraying and wiping everything and wearing masks, so really that is a stupid statement.

No, assuming that spraying and wiping everything and wearing masks grants immunity to a virus is what's stupid. It will reduce the risk, not eliminate it. Also, last time I checked, cashiers at Costco do leave the premises and I'm pretty sure they don't spray and wipe everywhere they go.
43 posted on 06/29/2020 9:38:57 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: L.A.Justice

Dr. F...Many people are worried about how effective the vaccine will be...They have legitimate concerns...

Don’t worry. if Biden gets in, you’ll be forced to take it. Effective or not. Side effects, or not.

The FearBros on FR will rejoice.


44 posted on 06/29/2020 9:39:45 AM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: Artcore

Agreed. I am reluctantly concluding that Trump is controlled opposition, with Kushner serving as his handler.


45 posted on 06/29/2020 9:41:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
A harmless amount of mercury

No such thing bro.

46 posted on 06/29/2020 9:42:01 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: BenLurkin; All
Isn’t “herd immunity” the exact opposite of vaccinated immunity?

No. In both cases it's "herd immunity," whether the immunity came naturally or by vaccine. This is why anti-vaxxers are so dangerous to school children, for example, because you need both the individual's immune system response and enough people in the population to control the virus because not everyone's immune system responds the same.

That means, for example, if enough kids haven't been vaccinated against measles to reach herd immunity even some vaccinated kids will fall ill.

47 posted on 06/29/2020 9:44:18 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Vote Giant Meteor in 2020)
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To: L.A.Justice

People need to see this before it gets pulled from youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fhGV1LxeKQ&bpctr=1593450793


48 posted on 06/29/2020 9:46:34 AM PDT by Senormechanico
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To: Jan_Sobieski
"When your body is exposed to a virus or bacteria, it makes antibodies to fight off the infection. When you recover, your body keeps these antibodies."

A) That's a bit overly simplistic. The antibodies aren't typically present for a significant period of time. It's the Memory B-Cells that are truly the long term defense against reinfection.

B) What do you think a vaccine does? It exposes the body to a dead or weakened form of the virus or bacteria, causing an immune response in the body. The very same immune response that would be triggered if it were an encounter with the pathogen in the wild. The same antibodies get made. The same Memory B-Cells get activated. You just don't get sick. And you gain the same immunity. It's a great deal.

49 posted on 06/29/2020 9:47:05 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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Bump


50 posted on 06/29/2020 9:49:59 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Mercury is an element. Thiomersal is a compound.

Claiming thiomersal is dangerous because it has mercury in it is like claiming table salt is dangerous because it has chlorine in it. Compounds react differently from their individual elements.


51 posted on 06/29/2020 9:52:08 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: L.A.Justice

Never believe Fauxi

-Fauxi 2005.  NIH Scientists Conceal Millions in Royalties for Experimental Treatments 

https://ahrp.org/nih-scientists-caught-concealing-millions-in-royalties-for-experimental-treatments-ap

-Fauxi’s 15 deadly mistakes and contradictions

https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/mark-simone/content/2020-05-12-dr-anthony-faucis-15-totally-wrong-predictions-and-contradictions/

-Fauxi and Birx used fraudulent Imperial College model to urge shut down 

https://liberalsarenuts.com/2020/05/07/dr-fauci-and-dr-birx-used-imperial-college-model-now-confirmed-as-a-complete-fraud-to-persuade-president-trump-to-lock-down-entire-us-economy

https://judithcurry.com/2020/03/25/covid-19-updated-data-implies-that-uk-modelling-hugely-overestimates-the-expected-death-rates-from-infection

-Modeler had to resign in disgrace

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/professor-lockdown-modeler-resigns-in-disgrace/

-Fauxi later reverses and says we can’t rely on models

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2020/04/03/fauci-we-cant-really-rely-on-models/ ;  
   

-Fauxi has numerous conflicts of interest

https://nationalfile.com/president-trump-vs-bill-gates-on-treatment-fauci-has-a-100-million-conflict-of-interest

https://newswithviews.com/dr-fauci-and-dr-birx-have-a-record-of-medical-failure/

-Fauxi has long history of fraud

http://www.americanfreedomunion.com/dr-faucis-long-criminal-history/

https://www.coreysdigs.com/law-order/when-the-masks-went-on-their-masks-came-off/

-Fauxi fired researcher that exposed his vaccines were spreading chronic diseases

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/sweet-innocent-dr-fauci-assistant-doctor-fired-jailed-2011-warning-vaccines-giving-americans-known-chronic-diseases/

-Fauxi is Hillary loyalist

https://conservativedailypost.com/fauci-fraud-face-of-coronavirus-task-force-exposed-in-hillary-loving-deep-state-act
/

-Fauxi promised AIDS Vaccine and has yet to deliver

https://newswithviews.com/dr-fauci-and-dr-birx-have-a-record-of-medical-failure/

    

-Scarf Queen falsified data on HIV research

https://truepundit.com/dod-leak-feds-investigated-birx-fabricated-falsified-hiv-aids-vaccine-trials/

- Fauxi knew hydroxyxhloroquine could both cure and prevent corona viruses in 2005.  Passive aggressive on HCQ in 2020.  Intentional?

https://onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2020/04/27/fauci-knew-about-hcq-in-2005-nobody-needed-to-die

-”Fauxi” praised use of hydroxychloroquine in 2013 to treat the MERS corona virus.  Risky drug in 2020?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/wow-dr-fauci-cheered-hydroxychloroquine-success-treating-mers-coronavirus-2013-today-skeptical-weird/

 

COVER UP: Fauci Approved Chloroquine, Hydroxychloroquine 15 Years Ago to Cure Coronaviruses; “Nobody Needed to Die” – True Pundit

https://truepundit.com/cover-up-fauci-approved-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine-15-years-ago-to-treat-nobody-needed-to-die

-Fauxi funded research grants to Wuhan lab to fund risky virus research that was illegal in the U.S. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html

   

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/paid-for-the-damn-virus-thats-killing-us-giuliani-rips-fauci-over-grants-to-wuhan-laboratory

https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/04/breaking-kennedy-exposes-dr-faucis-role-in-creating-highly-infectious-mutant-strain-of-coronavirus/ ;

https://conservativedailypost.com/evidence-fauci-funded-virus-gain-of-function-study-making-transmission-to-humans-possible/

https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741

-Fauxi in 2017: President Trump Will Be Challenged By a “Surprise Global Disease Outbreak”.  What did he know?

https://www.healio.com/infectious-disease/emerging-diseases/news/online/%7B85a3f9c0-ed0a-4be8-9ca2-8854b2be7d13%7D/fauci-no-doubt-trump-will-face-surprise-infectious-disease-outbreak

     

-Despite his 2017 prediction, Fauxi unprepared for 2020 pandemic.  By design?

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2020/04/02/america-unprepared-coronavirus-pandemic-what-do-about-covid-19/5109482002/

    

-In Jan 2020 interview, he said,  “... this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.” - intentional? 

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/03/flashback-fauci-coronavirus-us-threat-trump/

-Fauxi caught on video flip flopping on severity of the virus

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=59a0uGIFZGY

-Fauxi said masks do not work.       

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/preventing-coronavirus-facemask-60-minutes-2020-03-08/

-Fauxi in February said malls, gyms and movie theaters were OK.  Make us more vulnerable?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/update-fauci-said-cruises-ok-march-9-fauci-said-malls-movies-gyms-ok-feb-29-now-wants-blame-trump-failures/

  

-Fauxi in March said Americans cruises were OK.  Catch us with guard down?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggollan/2020/03/09/fauci-says-cruising-is-ok-if-you-are-healthy/#6f8eb5f62d4d

     

-Fauci on CNN Easter Sunday suggested President Trump should have shut down the country in February 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/dope-dr-fauci-says-trump-shut-economy-february-democrat-impeachment-sham/

-Fauxi exaggerated need for Hospital beds

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/faucis-follies-us-coronavirus-field-hospitals-shut-without-treating-single-patient-garbage-models-used-us-experts/

-Fauxi is front man for Big Pharma, pushing expensive new drugs that require tests and trials rather than inexpensive proven cures like HCQ+zinc+zpack that have been around for decades.  More time to let the virus spread?   

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/fauci_now_is_part_of_the_problem_not_part_of_the_solution.html

-Fauxi delaying tests of vaccines and cures 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/fauci_now_is_part_of_the_problem_not_part_of_the_solution.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/four_questions_senators_should_ask_redfield_and_fauci_on_tuesday.html

-Fauxi agenda is mandated vaccines to benefit Big Pharma and Bill Gates.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/8/anthony-fauci-sets-stage-mandatory-vaccine/

-Fauxi 100% wrong with exaggerated models

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/13016-us-surgeon-general-adams-dumps-bill-gates-who-cdc-%E2%80%98predictive-contagion%E2%80%99-model/

   

-Fauxi longtime relationship with corrupt WHO director, a communist-globalist with terrorist ties, who covers for the CCP  

https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/is-w-h-o-director-tedros-a-terrorist-global-ties-to-bill-gates-clinton-foundation-dr-fauci-china-and-genocide/

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-who-head-really-outstanding-person

https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/is-w-h-o-director-tedros-a-terrorist-global-ties-to-bill-gates-clinton-foundation-dr-fauci-china-and-genocide/

-Fauxi endorses Tinder hookups

https://nypost.com/2020/04/15/fauci-endorses-tinder-hookups-with-a-caveat/

-Fauxi plotted ‘Global Vaccine Action Plan’ with depopulation advocate Bill Gates, pushing panic and doubts about HCQ.  Big Pharma $$$s.   

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OlUbR7U/dr-anthony-fauci-plotted-global-vaccine-action-plan-with-bill-gates-before-pushing-covid-panic-and-doubts-about-hydroxychloroquine-treatments

- Fauxi, May 2020 told National Geographic the virus did not originate in Chinese Lab.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/

 

-Fauxi wrong again on State of Georgia reopening

             

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/dr-fauci-wrong-coronavirus-cases-drop-new-lows-georgia-opens-state-lifts-lockdown-orders/

             

 

-Dr Birx now believes CDC inflating death numbers by as much as 25%.   distancing herself?

   

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-bombshell-report-dr-birx-believes-cdc-inflating-death-numbers-much

-First Case in US Treated with Remdesivir was January – Two Weeks Later China Was Mass Producing the Drug – The Firm Gilead Sciences and Dr. Fauci Are In the Middle

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/first-case-covid-19-us-treated-remdesivir-late-january-two-weeks-later-china-mass-producing-drug-firm-gilead-sciences-dr-fauci-middle
/

Fauxi’s own NIH - Breakthrough: Chloroquine Phosphate Has Shown Apparent Efficacy in Treatment of COVID-19 Associated Pneumonia in Clinical Studies

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32074

https://mobile.twitter.com/99freemind/status/1243171622661521409/photo/2

Two Fauxi mistakes led to nationwide Lockdown

    

https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-two-mistakes-that-led-to-a-national-lockdown_3349318.html

Fauci and the Tuskegee Syphilis Study victims

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/dr_fauci_and_the_tuskegee_syphilis_study_victims.html#ixzz6MpATbmwS

Fauxi ties to Deep State, Soros, Gates, Clintons

https://youtu.be/KZmJ43hmHC8

Fauci caught in lie about inflammatory condition in children (May 2020)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/another-dr-fauci-lie-debunked-mysterious-inflammatory-condition-children-typical-every-year-13-100000-children-study/

Did Anthony Fauci’s promotion of dangerous research help create the COVID-19 pandemic?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/did-anthony-faucis-promotion-of-dangerous-research-help-create-the-covid-19-pandemic?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com&utm_campaign=a8ffd140b2-Daily%2520Headlines%2520-%2520U.S._COPY_782&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-a8ffd140b2-402230833


52 posted on 06/29/2020 9:52:27 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: L.A.Justice

Only an idiot like the quack Fauci can say “Herd Immunity” requires “Vaccinations”.

Herd immunity is the low level infections people give to each other that build immunity and that has nothing to do with vaccinations.


53 posted on 06/29/2020 9:54:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: webheart

“No, that is not opposite. Herd immunity is when a virus gets into a population but cannot spread because too many people have immunity either from previous exposure, exposure to a similar virus, or vaccination”

No, it is not. Vaccinations are not part of herd immunity.


54 posted on 06/29/2020 9:54:50 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

” or from getting a vaccine”

Herd immunity means the herd gives each other immunity through exposure to the virus, not that the herd has immunity from each getting a vaccination.

Think about it a little further. You don’t need a herd for immunizations.


55 posted on 06/29/2020 9:56:18 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: FewsOrange

Wrong, it is not just from vaccination. It is a population level immunity derived from any method, in fact most herd immunities are NOT from vaccines.

Stop spreading misinformation.


56 posted on 06/29/2020 9:58:57 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Mercury is an element. Thiomersal is a compound.

You like your mercury and thiomersal, you can keep your mercury and thiomersal.

On January 5, 1982, the FDA published its notice of proposed rule-making regarding thimerosal. Their scientific panel’s opinions and recommendations were the culmination of five years of research concerning the potential hazards and safety of thimerosal. (5) Published in the Federal Register, the panel concluded:

“At the cellular level, thimerosal has been found to be more toxic for human epithelial cells in vitro than mercuric chloride, mercuric nitrate, and merbromim (mercurochrome).”

“Exhibit 34 (Exhibit ELI-512). The FDA specifically found that thimerosal was significantly more toxic for living tissue than it was for the bacteria it was supposed to kill.”

“It was found to be 35.3 times more toxic for embryonic chick heart tissue than for staphylococcus aureus [top killer in hospitals today].”

“The Panel concludes that thimerosal is not safe for [over-the-counter] topical use because of its potential for cell damage if applied to broken skin and its allergy potential.”

..................

I'm happy to let you have my allocated dosage too.

57 posted on 06/29/2020 10:13:49 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: L.A.Justice

Gee maybe it will be as good as the flu shot


58 posted on 06/29/2020 10:16:01 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: L.A.Justice

Is it safe to vaccinate a population that has been isolated and masked in germ free environments, thus with weakened immune systems?

Will an antibody test be required before vaccinating?

What happens if you’ve had it and get vaccinated?


59 posted on 06/29/2020 10:18:35 AM PDT by mom.mom (...our flag was still there.)
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To: L.A.Justice
I am not sure if I am going to get the vaccine... Dr. F...Many people are worried about how effective the vaccine will be...They have legitimate concerns...

Partner, this continues to be the biggest hoax on the American people.

Fauci will become a multi millionaire after the vaccine has been discovered and he is already 80 years of age.

Birx is another hoax along with Fauci.

I do not even wear a mask but I do take the 7000 mg of Vitamin C and 2 or more Zinc lozenges every single day and I have not had a cold or flu in more than 10 years.

60 posted on 06/29/2020 10:29:41 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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