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CDC admits fault, what about RNA vaccines down the road?
The Healing Oracle ^ | April 2018 | Healing Oracle

Posted on 02/10/2021 12:43:20 PM PST by delta7

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To: entropy12

Completely agreed.

And since we have zero deaths causally linked to any of the COVID-19 vaccines, but hundreds of thousands causally linked to COVID-19, that should make it an easy choice for anyone staying informed about the situation.


61 posted on 02/10/2021 3:19:43 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
If you went and asked 10,000 people randomly in the US what their feelings are about SV40, I seriously doubt a single one could even tell you what it is. If you gave it context, I seriously doubt any one of them had ever heard of it before or had any clue what the issue would be. Nobody cares about it. So the studies have no backers with financial interest.

But that's where I think you are a little bit naive on how propaganda or marketing is done. Some is for direct immediate results and other is some shaping general attitudes.

If I was trying to sell a vaccine TODAY and was facing stiff push back, I would pump out all types of stories like this one. It would not matter one iota if not a single person knew what the drug or disease was from 500 years ago. They would come away with MY INTENDED PROPAGANDA RESULT, I.E. "Some vaccine was touted as bad by a bunch of people and it was nothing but bogus noise, so that is probably happening today from the same crowd. I will ignore them and buy/take TODAY'S VACCINE."

SCORE - WIN.

62 posted on 02/10/2021 3:25:51 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It’s not monkey DNA; it’s a virus in the Polyomaviridae family. It wasn’t intentionally in the polio vaccines, it was a contaminant found in about 10-30% of those vaccines. The 1950s didn’t have the best quality control for things like that.

But I agree that injecting monkey DNA purposely doesn’t sound like a useful thing to be doing.

The mRNA vaccines also do not have any monkey DNA. Nor any DNA for that matter. They have only a snippet of messenger RNA (instructions used by ribosomes to build proteins) contained within a lipid (fat) shell. The lipid shell enables access through the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. The mRNA then encounters a ribosome and a harmless - but recognizably foreign - protein is produced, triggering an immune response.

All the immunity of a COVID-19 infection (more, in fact) without the problems associated with it.


63 posted on 02/10/2021 3:26:16 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: entropy12

I am anxious to do more travel all over the world, and a vaccination certificate will become a necessity to be granted entry in many countries.


You realize how scary/complying to NWO/commie/for the greater good that sounds.

Right?

You don’t like Joe Stalin counting the votes, but...you’re okay with him requiring a “vaccine” passport.

Got it.


64 posted on 02/10/2021 3:26:19 PM PST by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: BiglyCommentary
"If I was trying to sell a vaccine TODAY and was facing stiff push back, I would pump out all types of stories like this one."

But the studies were done a long time ago. And nobody's pushing back on the COVID-19 vaccine. The only stories I'm seeing is how every governor and every state is begging for more while people are randomly showing up at places that have vaccines hoping they'll have extras at the end of the day. Over 33 million people in the US have already had their first dose. There's about 290 million more eagerly awaiting their opportunity. This thing sells itself.

65 posted on 02/10/2021 3:29:36 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: entropy12
"I am anxious to do more travel all over the world, and a vaccination certificate will become a necessity to be granted entry in many countries."

Probably not all countries, but a lot will. And of course, since they are sovereign nations in control over their own borders, we have to respect their laws. To do otherwise would make us no better than the illegals who pour across our border each day.

66 posted on 02/10/2021 3:31:42 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: PGR88

Exactly. How many children do you know that have died from diphtheria pertussis or polio? Let alone measles or mumps? 100 years ago it would. it would not be uncommon to have 1/2 your children fail to reach age 5. More recently the hemophilus meningitis vaccine has saved many infants and young children from death and disability along with the pneumococcal vaccine. Bacterial meningitis has become rare thank God


67 posted on 02/10/2021 3:31:51 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
And nobody's pushing back on the COVID-19 vaccine. There's about 290 million more eagerly awaiting their opportunity.

ROFLOL! So those polls that say 45-50% won't take the vaccine are all bogus. In my immediate circle of family and friends the polling comes in at 100% AGAINST!

68 posted on 02/10/2021 3:32:59 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

All the RAT voters who are scared out of their whits by the hype and massive propaganda effort and are still cowering in their basements are all eager beaver to take the vaccine. But please, don’t confuse them as the total population of the US.


69 posted on 02/10/2021 3:37:24 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Sorry I totally disagree on these vaccines, we don’t know they are safe.


70 posted on 02/10/2021 3:44:02 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;page)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Thank you for sharing your beliefs.

I choose not to have monkey-born viruses, nor RNA, nor aborted fetal material derived vaccines injected into me.

Did as you prefer.

I’m totally supportive of you making your own choice.

We both had covid - 2.5 days of mild symptoms - following our protocols.

I’d had worse flu.

Since then, we also added ivermectin to our stocks, in case.

So we have no plans to get this vaccine.

This will free up our doses for those who live in fear of the Chyna Cough.

If they want ours, we are happy to make it available.


71 posted on 02/10/2021 3:44:31 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... )
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To: Mom MD
100 years ago it would. it would not be uncommon to have 1/2 your children fail to reach age 5

Not exactly. In 1920 the rate per 185 per 1000. That's not 500 per 1000. In 1800, the rate was not even 500, but 463 per 1000.

Child mortality rate (under five years old) in the United States, from 1800 to 2020*

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041693/united-states-all-time-child-mortality-rate/

72 posted on 02/10/2021 3:53:18 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: MrChips

Regrets.

Willing to share the circumstance?


73 posted on 02/10/2021 4:47:05 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: delta7

It’s enough to make one wonder about the true origins of AIDS...


74 posted on 02/10/2021 4:53:31 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Jane Long

I obey laws of sovereign nations. It does not mean I am congruent with their political philosophy. I have visited almost 40 countries and I love travel and some of them are definitely not capitalist like myself.


75 posted on 02/10/2021 5:07:21 PM PST by entropy12 (It is NOT WHO VOTES, it is who COUNTS THE VOTES wins elections...paraphrasing Joe Stalin)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Exactly what I believe. Illegals coming here break our laws, and I don’t wish to go to a foreign country and break their laws.


76 posted on 02/10/2021 5:10:16 PM PST by entropy12 (It is NOT WHO VOTES, it is who COUNTS THE VOTES wins elections...paraphrasing Joe Stalin)
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To: entropy12

How can you liberals not see the conflict between Democrats letting illegals pour across the border with no Covid checks and wanting Americans not to even be able to travel across state lines or not get on an airplane in the United States without a Covid test? Does the leftist preference for feeling over thinking render them Incapable of using any kind of logic?


77 posted on 02/10/2021 5:15:04 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: Jane Long

Once I took a test for air traffic controller jobs. There were 4000 people taking the test in Chicago. The test was very similar to IQ test except was more involved. They selected 10 people out of the 4000 who took the test. Yours truly was among the 10 called for interview. But luckily I did not pursue that job as later on I found out it was a very stressful job.

I am not surprised you are not infected with all your activities. Neither am I and I am much older at age 80. After all if you take total testing positive divided by population of USA, it is a very small fraction.


78 posted on 02/10/2021 5:20:28 PM PST by entropy12 (It is NOT WHO VOTES, it is who COUNTS THE VOTES wins elections...paraphrasing Joe Stalin)
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To: nikos1121

Trump did not create this so called vaccines. Drug companies did and most are not Trump friendly. I don’t like Trump associated with these experimental vaccines. These vaccines may end up being a disaster.


79 posted on 02/10/2021 5:22:39 PM PST by dforest (RATS are criminals and frauds. Hide anything that belongs to you. They will steal it.)
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To: entropy12

How did you come up with that obvious BS figure? Nearly all are vaccinated, save for SDA and fringe religious groups.


80 posted on 02/10/2021 5:42:53 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer, )
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