Posted on 04/20/2022 5:24:43 AM PDT by FarCenter
The PKK terrorist organization has come to the brink of collapse thanks to the Turkish army’s continued military operations, Defense Minister Hulusi Akar said on April 19, while vowing that the anti-terror fight will endure determinately.
“The collapse of the terrorist organizations PKK/PYD and YPG, which are no different from each other, is accelerating as a result of our determined struggle, with their ringleaders now openly expressing their organization’s disintegration,” Akar said, speaking at a conference in the northwestern province of Bursa.
Akar said that they observed this “disintegration” in the walkie-talkie conversations of PKK members during the recent Operation Claw Lock launched in northern Iraq.
Risks, threats and dangers increase at the global and regional level and evolve into crisis and even war, the minister stressed, adding that the security environment is being reshaped, while the balance of power, actors and roles are constantly changing.
“Turkey, which has become a subject in international relations and whose sphere of influence and interest is expanding day by day, closely follows all these developments,” he said.
Turkey is preparing itself for the conditions of this new era with its deep-rooted history, dynamic population and strong army, Akar said.
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The thing about modern terrorist operations is they aren’t a top-down pyramid where you remove a few blocks and the whole structure collapses. They’re like a hologram where no matter how small you slice it, what you’ve got in your hand can be used to reproduce the entire structure. Terrorism is a reaction to whatever the situation is on the ground, even if that situation is completely in the mind of the viewer. As long as one person remains, and that person has not been convinced to see the world differently than the entire structure will likely reemerge later under a different guise.
Nonetheless the organizational structure recruits followers. When that structure fails recruitment fails.
Certainly the sentiment remains in the hearts and minds of some. Without adequate support little happens.
Starving terrorist organizations is the key to their effective demise.
Turkey is going to be a big problem down the road.
I think these "terrorists" are Kurds, fighting an oppressive Turkish government.
If others have specific knowledge, please enlighten us. I do not claim to know much about this.
That the Turks are oppressive doesn’t mean that the Kurds are angels. And even if the Kurdish desire for independence is justified, that didn’t mean that the PKK is not a bunch of terrorists.
Kurdish ping.
Turkey running one of their periodic attacks in Northern Iraq.
Ex-fake-POTUS Zero has always wanted this, and his handlers are Biden's handlers.
Hurriyet is based in Turkey. Nothing but paid state propaganda comes from any source inside Turkey. Period.
Erdoo’s Turkey is evil Islamist Fascist Totalitarian. They protect the real terrorists. I.e. ISIS, Muslim brotherhood, and Sultan Murray. Turkey Under Erdogan is incompatible with NATO membership.
Syrian (Kurd) Ping List.
You are on the right track.
But I'm not King, ...
yet.
Erdogan likes to give the appearance his feet are planted on both sides of the fence - but he fools few. We know what he is and about.
Agree.
Agree. And I have no desire to be a King.
Only to be allowed to live my life in peace and be left alone by our Fed Gov.
Of course I will never be sure of that either.
The situation in Turkey is interesting
Turkey is on the verge or may have actually collapsed economically. Some unknown source must have thrown a temporary life line. Down the road is problematic
There is I believe a solution in the works. There was a Negev summit, Immediately, within days, after which foreign ministers from the participants called on Erdogan. They have the capacity to easily rescue Turkey. They surely made him an offer he dare not refuse.
It boils down to how hard headed and stubborn Erdogan is. He can refuse the offers and probably die. Or, he can accept becoming part of the regional group now called a miniNato and containing Iran and live
The Kurds are not all on the same page as far as HOW to oppose the very forms of oppression from the government of Turkey.
There are members of a Kurdish political party that sits in the parliament of Turkey. They do not fight with the Kurdish organization, the PKK, which has militia camps in northern Iraq.
The PKK is also not well liked by the leading Kurdish political party in the Kurdish government of the Kurdish region/province of Iraq.
If all three of the Kurdish groups I just mentioned were sitting by themselves in a room, and were discussing the government of Turkey and its impacts on Kurds in general, they would be more in agreement than disagreement.
But, the PKK is the one that still fights while the others just lodge their complaints and wishes diplomatically.
Separate from all of that is the Kurdish group YPG and the Kurdish groups that have fended off ISIS and Turkey in northern Syria. The U.S., having worked with them against ISIS in Syria, is still providing assistance to them.
Kurds, as a distinct people, who have been a known people in the region since long before the Turks arrived, are divided by country boundaries that never provided self-determination for the Kurds. They are in most of eastern Turkey, northern Syria and Northern Iraq as well as part of Iran. They are neither Turks, nor Arabs, nor Persians, nor Assyrians. Yet they are ruled over by all of them.
Particularly this:
Kurds, as a distinct people, who have been a known people in the region since long before the Turks arrived, are divided by country boundaries that never provided self-determination for the Kurds. They are in most of eastern Turkey, northern Syria and Northern Iraq as well as part of Iran. They are neither Turks, nor Arabs, nor Persians, nor Assyrians. Yet they are ruled over by all of them.
Kurds are the local residents, and they have a little trouble putting up with the Ottoman Turks showing up with a bad attitude.
It goes back that far.
“Kurds are the local residents, and they have a little trouble putting up with the Ottoman Turks showing up with a bad attitude.”
They actually fared better under the Ottomans (as did the Arabs in Iraq, Anatolia (Turkey) and Syria. The Ottomans left a lot to the local ethnic leaders as long as they did not raise up militant/military type opposition to the Ottomans. But that changed in Turky, Syria and Iraq after the fall of the Ottoman empire. With the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the Kurds of Anatolia (Turkey), Syria and Iraq became a “minority” to keep under control.
As much as the leading political party in the Kurdish gpvernment in the Kurdish region/province of Iraq does not see eye-to-eye with the PKK militants that Turkey fights, the northern Iraq Kurds have to admit that it is only due to their persistant militance against the gpovernments in Baghdad that they have their own province in Iraq today. They must see that the PKK sees the Kurdish dominant areas of Turkey no differently than the Kurds of Iraq see themselves - deserving to rule themselves. We can argue about their politics (and on that I would not agree on all things with the PKK), but I think their general purpose is clear.
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