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Exclusive: U.S. aims to arm Ukraine with advanced anti-ship missiles to fight Russian blockade
Reuters ^ | 19-MAY-2022 | Mike Stone

Posted on 05/19/2022 1:04:56 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

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To: Kazan

The Russians just dont have the resources to start a real offensive again. The balance of power is already swinging away from them, and no possible mobilization that is within their power (even if they dare to do it) can bring up new units that will be any better than sacrificial cannon fodder.


61 posted on 05/19/2022 2:58:32 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: PIF

Jon attacks the woketards with that pic and you get triggered by it. Cry harder. LOL.


62 posted on 05/19/2022 3:00:03 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: House Atreides

“this could motivate the Russians to invade ALL of Ukraine’s southwestern territories”

As opposed to just consolidating their current gains and then invading ALL of Ukraine’s southwestern territories in a few years, which is what happens if we do nothing.


63 posted on 05/19/2022 3:01:42 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Kazan

I would like to see details of the scenario in which the Russians get to Odessa. It would have to be quite creative I think, hence quite interesting.


64 posted on 05/19/2022 3:01:58 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: PIF

‘the possibility that this could motivate the Russians to invade ALL of Ukraine’s southwestern territories’
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“If only they had the manpower ... wait they don’t even have the manpower to close one tiny pincer north from Popasna. And now you want them to attack all of the SW?”
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I “want them to attack all of the SW”? Hell, no! I didn’t want ANY of this war. The STUPIDITY of the Biden administration allowed this war to come about. And their continuing miscalculations and blundering may lead to further escalations.

I’ve been appalled by the abysmal IGNORANCE OF HISTORY so many are displaying. Folks apparently have ZERO UNDERSTANDING of the importance that Russia places on the Black Sea.

The inception of UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES may be in the process of being conceived. DUMBASSERY ABOUNDS.


65 posted on 05/19/2022 3:02:05 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX!)
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

Docks and grain storage facilities are a lot easier to rebuild than warships, especially when most of Russia’s warships were built by Ukraine, prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union, so they can’t currently be replaced.


66 posted on 05/19/2022 3:03:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Kazan; pierrem15
You are propagandist rewriting history.

Bump!

67 posted on 05/19/2022 3:04:38 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Kazan

Believe whatever pro-Putin garbage you want. Yanukovych was a Lukashenko-Putin-stooge wannabee. When he vetoed the EU accession bill approved by the Ukrainian parliament to try to drag Ukraine back into the political and economic gangster state of Russia, tens of thousands of Ukrainians protested. Putin’s agents in Mariupol got roasted as a result of the violence Putin fomented.


68 posted on 05/19/2022 3:06:19 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

“Ukraine will not have a port when this is over, if we keep upping the ante...”

Putin’s stated goal is for Ukraine not to have anything when this is over, so I don’t think they really think that “upping the ante” has any downside at all.


69 posted on 05/19/2022 3:06:44 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SpeedyInTexas
From Crimea to Latakia: the journey of stolen Ukrainian grain
https://youtu.be/IQewcFTyIfg

70 posted on 05/19/2022 3:06:53 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: pierrem15
Why? Russia lived without the Crimea from 1991 until 2014.

Russia had full use of the naval base at Sevastopol during this entire time and had signed treaties with Ukraine guaranteeing use by the Russian navy until 2042.

In exchange, Russia provided Ukraine with natural gas.

71 posted on 05/19/2022 3:07:29 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: House Atreides
Folks apparently have ZERO UNDERSTANDING of the importance that Russia places on the Black Sea.

No, we just think Russia's dreams of neo-imperial glory need to adjust to its present circumstances and the post WWII rule that you don't change borders in Europe by force.

72 posted on 05/19/2022 3:08:32 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: PGR88
"Boy, let’s hope none of those missiles fall into the hands of Iran, Houthi Rebels, Hamas, Venezuela, etc. etc."

Ha! Some of Russia's allies.

73 posted on 05/19/2022 3:09:22 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: pierrem15
Believe whatever pro-Putin garbage you want. Yanukovych was a Lukashenko-Putin-stooge wannabee. When he vetoed the EU accession bill approved by the Ukrainian parliament to try to drag Ukraine back into the political and economic gangster state of Russia, tens of thousands of Ukrainians protested. Putin’s agents in Mariupol got roasted as a result of the violence Putin fomented.

The same cabal who said this about Yanukovich said the same thing about Donald Trump, that he was a gangster, a Putin-stooge, and would destroy America. Tens of thousands of people also protested Trump's election.

74 posted on 05/19/2022 3:13:02 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Any bets that some of these missiles end up in Yemen or Iran?


75 posted on 05/19/2022 3:14:20 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: buwaya

“In Eastern European terrain these cannot be hidden...”

Yes, there is a vast difference between the canyons, hills, and mountains of Korea, or the dense jungles of Vietnam, and the Eurasian steppe, which is probably the biggest flat and open battlefield on the face of the earth. The only place you can hide there are in the cities, or in the trees, and there aren’t that many trees.


76 posted on 05/19/2022 3:15:06 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: pierrem15

It was a coup, for you pretend otherwise means you don’t know what you’re talking about.


77 posted on 05/19/2022 3:16:58 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Boogieman
which is what happens if we do nothing.

Why do we have to do something?

Do you really care who sits in the presidential palace in Kiev while our country is being destroyed from within?

78 posted on 05/19/2022 3:20:47 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: jimwatx

No, it just means I don’t understand those events as you do, probably because I have family in Poland and was in Ukraine a couple of years after.


79 posted on 05/19/2022 3:21:43 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Drew68

Trump didn’t flee to Russia, did he? QED


80 posted on 05/19/2022 3:22:39 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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