Posted on 07/12/2022 6:24:19 AM PDT by devane617
As Donald J. Trump weighs whether to open an unusually early White House campaign, a New York Times/Siena College poll shows that his post-presidential quest to consolidate his support within the Republican Party has instead left him weakened, with nearly half the party’s primary voters seeking someone different for president in 2024 and a significant number vowing to abandon him if he wins the nomination.
By focusing on political payback inside his party instead of tending to wounds opened by his alarming attempts to cling to power after his 2020 defeat, Mr. Trump appears to have only deepened fault lines among Republicans during his yearlong revenge tour. A clear majority of primary voters under 35 years old, 64 percent, as well as 65 percent of those with at least a college degree — a leading indicator of political preferences inside the donor class — told pollsters they would vote against Mr. Trump in a presidential primary.
Mr. Trump’s conduct on Jan. 6, 2021, appears to have contributed to the decline in his standing, including among a small but important segment of Republicans who could form the base of his opposition in a potential primary contest. While 75 percent of primary voters said Mr. Trump was “just exercising his right to contest the election,” nearly one in five said he “went so far that he threatened American democracy.”
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Man that hurt. I hope I can recover....
https://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/Red-Herring.html
You are welcome. Have a nice day 🙂
Can someone link to that YouTube video of election night, where the state-by-stare results roll in as the “news reporters” go from laughing to tears to howling at the moon? Why in the world would I believe them in ANYTHING related to Trump?
“Forget it, he’s on a roll.”
That's their problem.
Bingo.
Lol. Maybe he’s auditioning to be Trump’s mean Tweet writer.
“I will NEVR forgive him.”
I don’t doubt you. I just consider that attitude immature.
Despite horrendous flaws and mistakes as prez, I would vote for Trump if he wins the primary. Because he would still be far better than Biden/any Dem.
NYT DISCLAIMER:
“We really aren’t a NEWSpaper, but we do work for the Democrats”
NYT: You wish.
DeSantis has yet to feel the full fury of the deep state which tried in every way possible to stymie, or even destroy Trump as he tried to run the country. They will do the same thing to DeSantis if he is the nominee, and it may be worse for him.
Trump underestimated the roadblocks they threw in his path, but he will be better prepared the next time. Would DeSantis be ready for the onslaught? That remains to be seen.
Still, I remember the primary fights on this place. In 2008, Fred Thompson was the overwhelming FReeper favorite (after a sizable number of Giuliani supporters were purged from the site in ‘07). This place hated McCain. Thompson dropped out and FR only embraced the McCain campaign after he brought Palin on board.
Again, in 2012 the fight here was between Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul, with Gingrich the site favorite. Not a single poster here wanted Romney to be the nominee.
So, yes, this place hasn’t really had their finger on the pulse of mainstream Republican voters.
Exactly. Yet all we get is the same kind of dismissive overbearing bluster from EverTrumpers that makes Trump never quite “great”.
Well....
If you just stick with the words of the headline, I guess I’m ready. Of course that will be after the mid-term party switch in Congress and a second term.
Why does the NY Times want to put so much focus on Trump at this point. He isn’t running and may never. He is at the front of a major MAGA change in the Republican party.
If they want to defend Democratic territory— which I believe they do, they need to get on the stick and start a fight with the rest of the MAGA candidates and movements.
Or else the NY Times will wake up one morning with DeSantis, Youngkin, or some other younger leader happily eating their pancakes and playing with their kids.
Don’t forget the 2016 “Purge”...
I am in that half that is ready to leave Trump behind. Elon Musk hit the nail on the head - we do not need a bull in the china shop every day. I love Trump, but he has nobody to blame but himself for a lot of this. He should have learned when to just shut his mouth and not do the “counter-punch” thing. Like in the last debates. I think the election was stolen from him, and if he runs against RINOs, I will vote for Trump. But if DeSantis runs, I am voting for DeSantis, the way things stand now.
Don’t believe anything printed in that rag.
Hey FreshPrince. I would describe DeSantis as a Fresh Prince.
A Fresh Prince has some virtues and experience. But be careful because older, wiser, and corrupted Dukes can manipulate a Prince.
I prefer a seasoned and proven King, the ULTRA Maga King specifically.
Another virtue of my King: he cannot be BOUGHT.
Right now it seems the richest man in the world wants to buy DeSantis.
Maybe Musk figures he can’t make it alone after all. With consumers suffering massive electric shock — EV sticker price shock — can his empire grow without the Federal Government’s helping hand?
Hmm. What’s DeSantis’ policy in supporting electric vehicles? I’d like to know.
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