Posted on 03/06/2023 12:48:22 PM PST by CFW
You are going off the rails about who knows what, just rambling and raging, and I think to the wrong poster since you make no sense.
“You are going off the rails about who knows what, just rambling and raging, and I think to the wrong poster since you make no sense.”
Nothing makes sense, to some here, that’s why we’re in the mess we’re in.
Yeah, I think in your zeal to respond you missed my point.
We’ve tried that angle before. Twice in the last century.
Tens of millions died because you can’t be bothered. Twice.
You still didn't answer the question: what would we gain from Russian victory?
The vanishing machine tools were an Emergency Gift to the People’s State of Ukraine…
“It’s also a lack of experienced and knowledgeable machine operators.”
This highlights another serious aspect of this production problem. For 30 or more years shop and related courses have been phased out of secondary education. All the emphasis on higher education has focused on sending everyone to college, even to the point of inflicting millions of young people with huge endless debt loads.
We definitely need to turn this situation around, restore practical industrial education for those who are interested, and reestablish the industries and production that are essential to a safe and secure nation. This includes having adequate pay scales for essential workers, and if necessary reducing the top to bottom pay inequities that have grown from the 1960s when to CEOs only earned 40 times the pay of their low level workers. Currently these inequities often range from 400 to 1 up to 1,000 to 1.
Who is currently on the election horizon who might agree with these necessary changes to restore America’s independent strength? Any ideas?
“Who is currently on the election horizon who might agree with these necessary changes to restore America’s independent strength?”
Nobody in particular. Maybe Trump, but he hasn’t made a point of it. Some significant legislation came through in his term, permitting repatriation of corporate profits, reducing incentives for offshoring production. Since then there has been a great interest in bringing operations back to the US.
There is great demand now for manufacturing manpower. There is a great labor shortage in those fields, and other skilled blue collar fields of all kinds. Electric Linemen for instance are very hard to get.
Welders, pipefitters, anybody with any skills related to nat gas, etc. Jobs going begging.
I bought a large number of machine tools when they cleaned out the warehouses for pennies in the dollar. Most of it brand new.
Why? Because the Germans would be in charge?
Might want to review this:
https://time.com/6252541/inside-the-us-army-plant-making-artillery-shells-for-ukraine/
I was shocked that it is still in operation.
Any luck selling that stuff?
There is a huge shortage of “cleaner young men”.
And it’s been so for quite a while now.
They may have to move, but even entry level jobs are going begging.
Used the heck out of it and then sold the entire business.
Yes, there’s a shortage. That’s why I mentioned drug tests.
Maybe our manufacturing capacity shouldn’t have been sold off to China by a bunch of idiots.
Just trying to make sure that Americans are not part of the tens of millions. We have no business being the world’s cop. Russia and Ukraine have been at it before, they’re at it now and will be at it again. Us getting involved will not change that. Anyways, we have an incompetent Command in Chief, Secretary of Defense, and military leadership. They are just itching for an armed conflict involving US soldiers. They never talk about peace and they continually escalate. It’s insane to place our young soldiers in harms way in yet another misadventure, particularly when we have not been attacked. I’m done with forever wars that we do not win.
> For 30 or more years shop and related courses have been phased out of secondary education. <
I taught science at an urban public high school. And I saw that happen right in front of me. Most people aren’t aware of it, but it’s the fault of George W. Bush. He destroyed trades education in public schools. His idiotic ‘No Child Left Behind’ Act tested for math and English, but NOT for the trades. Vocational classes (carpentry, plumbing, hairdressing, etc.) were ignored, as if they had no value at all.
And woe to the schools that scored low on the NCLB tests! So as a matter of self-preservation, most school districts eliminated their trades programs. The trades students were then shoved into advanced math and English classes - classes they neither wanted nor needed.
The urban high school where I taught had a superb carpentry program. It was probably the best one in the state. It’s gone now, thanks to George W. Bush.
So perhaps the first step here would be to add trades exams to national tests. Honor a school with a high-scoring carpentry class just as you’d honor one with a high-scoring algebra class.
I agree with you but I’m not aware of any candidates who are aware or even talking about this.
that doesn’t mean there aren’t any...
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