Interesting
To: ChicagoConservative27
Judge
I will not have facts released in MY court room I have friends in D.C. .
2 posted on
06/19/2023 10:18:25 AM PDT by
Vaduz
(....)
To: ChicagoConservative27
OK not a lawyer...
But the Judge assigned to this case is Judge Cannon, what right does Rinehart have to instruct what Trump can and cannot do?
To: ChicagoConservative27
What else can the judge due on this? Seriously, if these are or were classified government documents, as opposed to personal documents, seems like they should be kept underwraps. Otherwise, if one of the documents is, as alleged, DoD attack plan against Iran, should it be released by Trump or anyone? Purportedly, Trump apparently said he didn't declassify it, yet he still had it. I'd love to hear an explanation on that and how he thinks that document is a personal presidential paper.
Trump can make himself a martyr out of this but anyone looking at the details, especially anyone who has had or has a security clearance, is a veteran, etc., will at best cringe at what he has done.
And again, just because others have done the same, is not excuse. They all should be held to same standard and prosecuted.
4 posted on
06/19/2023 10:26:57 AM PDT by
Reno89519
(Donald Tantrum? No Thank You. We Can Do Better! I am a Veteran Supporting Veteran DeSantis.)
To: ChicagoConservative27
I wonder if that holds any more power than releasing the preliminary Abortion rulings by the supreme court judges?
5 posted on
06/19/2023 10:28:53 AM PDT by
Skywise
To: ChicagoConservative27
But if he leaks it to a buddy at Columbia University, who then provides it to the press, that’s ok.
To: ChicagoConservative27
Just a short note. Julie Kelly has provided a portion of the sealed DOJ motion requesting a judge to block President Trump
from having access to his own presidential records.
As noted by attorney Mike Davis, “The Biden Justice Department keeps pretending these are not presidential records. “[T]he Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President’s designated representative.” 44 U.S.C. § 2205(3).”
Additionally, as noted by numerous others, the constitutional framework of this ideological outlook is substantively flawed. The records are created by agencies within government for the exclusive use and benefit of the Chief Executive Officer of the government, the President of the United States.
There is no agency, institution, system of government or administrative executive bureaucracy above the authority of the President of the United States. These are President Trump’s records.
There is no constitutional basis from which a lower subset of the executive branch of government can attempt to restrict access. The President is the highest constitutional officer, everything and everyone else is less than; and yes, that includes when the records of his administration are assembled after he leaves office.
The DOJ wants to limit public knowledge of the material evidence, not because it would harm national security – but rather because the nature of the evidence itself would highlight to the nation how fraudulent the targeting is. This is the guaranteed DOJ motive, that’s why everything is under seal and even the media will not talk about how they are gaining their leak knowledge. This is LAWFARE narrative engineering at its apex deployment. (more)
Hopefully everyone can see now why I created so much context for the Fourth Branch of Government. The DOJ is essentially arguing that some unknown administrative state has a superior position to the executive branch of government.
The US DOJ are affirming a belief in the omnipotent Fourth Branch of Government that Barack Obama created.
8 posted on
06/19/2023 10:32:30 AM PDT by
Bratch
To: ChicagoConservative27
>Trump... cannot “disclose the Discovery Materials or their contents directly or indirectly to any person or entity other than persons employed to assist in the defense...
So throw a massive “defense recruitment rally”, pay each attendee $0.01, and deem them employed as members of the defense team.
9 posted on
06/19/2023 10:34:43 AM PDT by
Nervous Tick
(Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
To: ChicagoConservative27
Yeah.
They would slap a full gag order on him if they could to protect the scumbags persecuting him.
We have statists here on FR who are headfirst in the rectum of the Media and the Left and fully support the persecution of this President by the State, because they are, well, Orange Man Bad.
Screw them.
10 posted on
06/19/2023 10:35:52 AM PDT by
rlmorel
("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
To: All
Makes sense seeing as the government is pretending that the documents are classified.
12 posted on
06/19/2023 10:36:21 AM PDT by
escapefromboston
(Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
To: ChicagoConservative27
So how does he even defend himself?
13 posted on
06/19/2023 10:37:05 AM PDT by
for-q-clinton
(Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
To: ChicagoConservative27
““Defendants shall only have access to Discovery Materials under the direct supervision of Defense Counsel or a member of Defense Counsel’s staff. Defendants shall not retain copies of Discovery Material,” Reinhart added.”
Abjectly criminal. Discovery is releasing the evidence to the defendant. The defendant’s lawyer is a staff member working FOR the defendant, not his supervisor. Suppose the defendant wants to stay up all night reading the evidence for his next meeting with the lawyer?
And then, how does this magistrate judge set the evidence rules for the courtroom of a Federal District Judge?
Justice Thomas will soon be involved.
16 posted on
06/19/2023 10:40:49 AM PDT by
DesertRhino
(Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
To: ChicagoConservative27
Judge Bruce Reinhart is very crooked. We have known that for years now. And to think that some people thought he was a good judge.
18 posted on
06/19/2023 10:45:16 AM PDT by
Revel
To: ChicagoConservative27
* Controlling the Explanations.
20 posted on
06/19/2023 10:46:50 AM PDT by
Varsity Flight
( "War by🙏🙏 the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
To: ChicagoConservative27
Of course. This lets the DOJ leak anything they want and try the case in public with no countervailing narrative.
They love this crap.
To: ChicagoConservative27
I am sure the goal of Trump’s defense team is to lay the foundation for dismissing the charges — or appealing a conviction — on Sixth Amendment grounds. The right of a defendant to introduce evidence in his defense is guaranteed under the Constitution. The prosecution can’t engage in this chicanery where they try to hide exculpatory evidence by claiming it’s “classified.”
This is why some espionage cases are difficult to prosecute. It’s not unusual for the prosecution to end up in a situation where they can’t use the most important evidence to prosecute the case.
30 posted on
06/19/2023 11:01:30 AM PDT by
Alberta's Child
("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
To: ChicagoConservative27; All
He should leak it live on the debate stage against Biden. If they are going to criminalizing speech don’t let them do it in secret. So unfair and unjust what they are doing to President Trump. It’s a shame no one is willing or able to do anything about it.
To: ChicagoConservative27
Only the prosecutor can do to enhance their case, defendants not so much. Banana justice.
34 posted on
06/19/2023 11:12:28 AM PDT by
SkyDancer
(My Talents Are So Hidden That Even I Can't Find Them ...)
To: ChicagoConservative27
I am no lawyer, but I can read the Sixth Amendment:
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
How can he obtain witnesses in his favor if the nature of the evidence is hidden from the public? And how can one call a trial where the nature of the evidence is kept secret a "public trial"?
To: ChicagoConservative27
Anyone want to bet that the information “not to be released” is about Joe Biden, Hillary & Bill Clinton, and B Obama and illegal things that they have done with foreign powers?
To: ChicagoConservative27
Why not release evidence? What’s his problem? Oh, I know. DemocRAT!
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