Posted on 08/30/2023 9:28:59 AM PDT by MeganC
“Whether you like it, or not, history is on our side. We will bury you,” he said quoting former USSR leader Nikita Khrushchev.
Russian politician Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday Russia has the right to go to war with NATO.
Writing on Twitter, now X, he said: "Ukrainian criminals have announced that any strikes of theirs against whatever Russian target, “for example, in Crimea” were approved by NATO."
"If it is true – and there is no reason to doubt it is – then, this is a direct legally significant proof of the West’s complicity in the war against Russia. It is a refined casus belli, and for Russia, it is an opportunity to act within the jus ad bellum framework against each and every NATO country."
Part of just war theory, which was first developed in ancient Greece and is still used by some Christians today, casus belli is an act or situation that morally justifies conflict, with jus ad bellum referring to conditions under which a state can resort to war.
Ukrainian forces have repeatedly attacked Crimea, occupied by Russia in 2014, in a bid to liberate the Black Sea peninsula. Western capitals provided Kyiv with weaponry and equipment after Russia invaded in February 2022, though it is unclear if they are providing more direct military assistance.
Medvedev has often taken to social media to write provocative and inflammatory statements about the Ukraine war and its Western allies.
He is widely seen as a stopgap for Vladimir Putin, serving as prime minister during the 2000s, while Putin changed the constitution to allow him another presidential term.
In Tuesday's tweet, Medvedev warned "apocalypse" was "drawing nearer", quoting biblical verse and old Soviet leaders.
These included: “And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them,” from Revelation 9:6, the final book of the New Testament in the bible.
He then added: “We are remembered until we stand in the others’ way,” attributed to Vladimir Lenin, who led the Bolshevik Revolution and was the Soviet Union's first leader.
Medvedev, Russia's Deputy Chairman of the Security Council, ended the tweet with a notorious quote from former USSR leader Nikita Khrushchev that was made to Western ambassadors in 1956.
"Whether you like it, or not, history is on our side. We will bury you," it read.
At the time, the phrase was received very negatively in the West. However, modern translators have since suggested Khrushchev's words were mistranslated.
Most of Medvedev's past threats have rung hollow or provoked ridicule online from large numbers of social media users.
In May, he referred to the Baltics as belonging to Russia, adding Poland was "temporarily occupied" due to NATO's presence inside the country, including 10,000 US troops, according to AP.
The three small Baltic States - Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia - were occupied by the USSR until it collapsed in 1991. The Soviet Union is viewed negatively by large swathes of the population, who have embraced their future within the EU and NATO.
Worries have grown in the Baltics about the threat posed by Russia since it invaded Ukraine last February. The trio are vocal supporters of Kyiv, providing aid, arms and hosting significant populations of Ukrainian refugees.
Though not directly in the USSR, Poland was a satellite state of the Soviet Union. The communist system, which was popularly perceived as corrupt and ineffectual, collapsed in 1989.
Since it was invaded by Russian troops, Western states have provided Ukraine with crucial military and financial assistance, essential to the country's self-defence.
In April, it was revealed special forces from the West were on the ground in Ukraine, though it was unclear what exactly they were doing.
Medvedev, who served as Russian PM between 2000 - 2004, has emerged as a virulent anti-West, pro-war voice within the Kremlin. He was once considered a pro-Western democrat.
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“a third of Russian shell production.”
Russia claims a lot of things.
Meanwhile, here’s an article that predates the current propaganda war:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/01/29/us-defense-contractor-distances-itself-cluster-munitions
“According to a 2017 Department of Defense letter, the US has destroyed approximately 3.7 million cluster munitions, containing 406.7 million submunitions, from its stocks since 2008.
The US still stockpiles millions of cluster munitions for possible use.”
Millions. And an article that was on FR in the past month or so said that 300,000 of these cluster munition artillery shells were designated for disposal and now they’re being sent to Ukraine.
We aren’t doing both, and you are not “we”. You’re another foreigner running your mouth.
“So, you hate America?”
I love America. But I’m not so keen on the bullies and thugs who too often wear badges, the bullies and thugs in the public schools, the bullies and thugs on the freeways, etc.
So, he’s going to fight every man in the bar?
Well, good luck with that...
LOL! My hubby would say that ‘Medvedev wrote a check he can’t cash’.
that was what the Soviet Union of pre Ronald Reagan did... which is NOT the Russia of today.
go away neocon.
https://youtu.be/pKcmNGvaDUs?si=QmTfL-jxxSsei-XF
Oliver Stone documentary on the Ukrainian coup and the called for genocide of Russian nationals.
That’s living off of the old inventory of the past. (good for 500 days, then what?)
Current production is less than 1000 per day, going to 3000 per day.
By 2026 they will do 6000 per day.
Ukraine needs 7000 per day. Russia produces 20K+ per day.
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/08/15/us-155mm-shell-production/
Bravado........ absolute bravado
Russia lacks the wherewithall to war with Ukraine, much less NATO
There are reports today that Japan had enough of the Russian provocation and began sending Money to Ukraine. There are also reports of Japanese mercenaries involved in the current battles around Bakhmut
Sorry, too many people on this forum and too many Russians in real life argue that Russia is a continuum of the USSR and not a child of it. It is part of their thinking in invading Ukraine is that they’re reuniting the USSR.
Russia is the USSR
The USSR is Russia
Latvia, Poland, and Lithuania are actively rounding up Russian nationals and deporting their butts back to Russia.
What’s Russia going to do about it?
And what’s their complaint with Ukraine removing Russian nationals? If they want to be Russian then the bast place for them to do that is Russia.
And Russia does?! Russia?! With a GDP comparable to, say, Spain alone? Against the combined power of NATO?!
If NATO/USA doesn’t win in the first couple of weeks - inevitable loss.
"You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
It's claimed that the quote is bogus - that it is falsely attributed to Yamamoto. But that doesn't lessen its validity.
Regards,
A distinction without a difference.
What is your point? As long as a great many Russians believe that they are re-uniting the U.S.S.R., what does it matter if, technically speaking, the Russian Federation is a mere successor-state to Soviet Russia?
Regards,
“GDP” is irrelevant. In war it is industrial production that is relevant.
Credit default swaps, OnlyFans subscriptions, Uber secondary stock offerings, retail margins on imported Ch!nk crap - none of that is relevant to industrial production of military equipment for war.
The reality - it will take the USA until 2026 to install the new equipment to produce 6000 artillery shells per day.
That is longer than the Manhattan Project !
It's precisely this kind of Great Power "sphere of influence" game of thrones that got us WWI and WWII.
wrong.
Yawn. More Russian boasting. What’s new?
All he has to do is have someone place a suitcase nuke in
Pershing Park or Faragut Square. The rest will take care of itself. There will be peace on earth for a thousand years. /spit
Your fallacy itself is irrelevant to the topic.
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