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Victoria Nuland and Anthony Blinken are under enormous political pressure to deliver a victory.
1 posted on 09/04/2023 7:59:57 AM PDT by Mariner
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Ukraine is winning so big that Zelensky fired the Defense Minister this weekend.


2 posted on 09/04/2023 8:03:16 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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“Forward!” he cried from the rear
And the front rank died


3 posted on 09/04/2023 8:03:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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---- "US officials are growing frustrated with how Ukraine is fighting the war, The New York Times said. "

The narrative shifts, as you speaks about "Victoria Nuland and Anthony Blinken" who can be described as "shifts" when one removes the "f."

4 posted on 09/04/2023 8:04:24 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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And how far will they go to achieve that “victory”? Direct US involvement on the ground in Ukraine? Create a false flag incident as a pretext for NATO intervention?

We are entering a dangerous phase of this war, a war Ukraine cannot win.


5 posted on 09/04/2023 8:04:38 AM PDT by kabar
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“They urged Ukraine to push through the vast minefields left behind by Russia in the area, even if this means losing more soldiers and equipment in the process, according to the reports.”
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I am sure this tactic will go over like a lead balloon to the average Uke forced into service.

When you are the know it alls behind a proxy war, who cares about the little warriors sent in to die for your proxy war so that you can stay politically safe and avoid the appearance of body bags in your own countries?

Makes me sick.


6 posted on 09/04/2023 8:07:12 AM PDT by dforest
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They urged Ukraine to push through the vast minefields left behind by Russia in the area

80/20 Ukieburger.

7 posted on 09/04/2023 8:08:58 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Half a dozen US officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told The New York Times and other outlets that they are starting to question some of Ukraine’s military tactics, including where on the frontline they are placing their combat units.

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So six UN-NAMED marxists in the Biden regime, according to the communist news paper the New York Times, think their vision of what to do is smarter than the people under attack?

My advice to the Ukrainians is to have a good belly laugh and then keep on keeping on.


9 posted on 09/04/2023 8:09:44 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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Just wait for the Summer 2024 offensive. Or 2025 offensive.


10 posted on 09/04/2023 8:09:58 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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I’m surprised the US deep-state gave its client state and puppets Kiev in that much operational freedom

They probably didn’t - but someone needs to be blamed.


11 posted on 09/04/2023 8:10:36 AM PDT by PGR88
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Soon these wickedly evil people will be forced to acknowledge a crushing defeat. Moreso than other recent military defeats, this one is personal thanks to their heritage and quasi-religious backgrounds. I’m not sure how they will react when reality hits them, but it could be dangerous for Americans. They aren’t used to losing.


15 posted on 09/04/2023 8:15:00 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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The Ukrainian offensive is done, a sad and pathetic joke from Zelinski and his US counterparts. They will rot in hell. The destruction of Ukraine to protect the ass wipe Bidens, is evil beyond words...


17 posted on 09/04/2023 8:16:56 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! )
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"They urged Ukraine to push through the vast minefields left behind by Russia in the area, even if this means losing more soldiers and equipment in the process, according to the reports.

Maybe the Ukrainian Generals know something that our bureaucrats don't know. Anyone who believes that those "vast minefields" planted by the Russians aren't also covered by literally THOUSANDS of artillery guns hasn't got enough brain cells committed to Russian war doctrine to rub two of them together. There AIN'T no "pushing through" them, they'll get blown to kingdom come if they try. Call it "Operation Haig1916."

Stupid, arrogant, bloodthirsty bureaucrats, brave with other people's mortality, BIH.

18 posted on 09/04/2023 8:17:26 AM PDT by OKSooner (Maybe Quix was right about some stuff. Pronouns=(XY, XYim, XY's))
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Only if we send the NeoCons’ and Dem wine moms’ sons, daughters & brainwashed “trans” kids can this be fixed. The sooner the better.


19 posted on 09/04/2023 8:23:00 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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The US is growing increasingly frustrated with Ukraine's tactics. It could put the counteroffensive in jeopardy.

‘MILITARY MALPRACTICE’: Armchair generals in and out of government should stop “chirping from the sidelines” and let Ukraine fight the Russian invaders in the way they think best, says the four-star Army general who advocated the 2007 troop surge credited with turning the tide of the battle in Iraq. In an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal, retired Gen. Jack Keane, former Army vice chief of staff, calls the frustration by some U.S. military officers over the way Ukraine is conducting its counteroffensive “alarming.”

“U.S. military experts appear to want the Ukrainians to hold on all other fronts and focus on a single thrust toward Melitopol. Such advice is military malpractice,” writes Keane, who is chairman of the board of directors of the Institute for the Study of War. “No one in the American military today has designed large-scale mechanized operations against a serious and capable enemy that is employing a comprehensive defense. The last time was the Metz campaign in France in 1944, led by Gen. George S. Patton.”

“American officers appear to have unrealistic expectations of what a single counteroffensive operation can achieve,” he says. “America should stop the criticism about what Ukraine is doing and focus instead on helping Ukraine achieve our common aims as rapidly as possible. That would be sound strategy.”

‘STRETCH, STARVE, AND STRIKE’: Keane says Ukraine is wisely employing a strategy dubbed “stretch, starve, and strike” by Britain’s top military officer, Adm. Tony Radakin, chief of the U.K. defense staff.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/us-second-guessing-of-ukraines-counteroffensive-strategy-is-military-malpractice-says-architect-of-2007-iraq-surge

25 posted on 09/04/2023 8:32:56 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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Counter offensive? What counter offensive?


27 posted on 09/04/2023 8:36:06 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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“ tactics” won’t change the outcome of a war based on fatally flawed strategy and the flawed assumptions on which it is based.

Like not knowing or understanding the “enemy”


29 posted on 09/04/2023 8:38:09 AM PDT by silverleaf (Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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The Uke Nazi counter offensive is designed to move the maximum amount of American dollars and gold to Ukraine Oligarchs, and is extremely effective, ... except at keeping Ukrainians alive.


30 posted on 09/04/2023 8:39:04 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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“They urged Ukraine to push through the vast minefields left behind by Russia in the area, even if this means losing more soldiers and equipment in the process, according to the reports.”

It’s easy for the US Generals to tell Ukraine to use human wave tactics, since it’s not THEIR UNITS that are getting destroyed.


32 posted on 09/04/2023 8:42:26 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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“If they can’t fornicate, they can’t fight!
And if they don’t fight hard, I’ll flog their backs raw”

Vicky Nuland channels Lord Cardigan, 2023 (colorized)


36 posted on 09/04/2023 8:44:23 AM PDT by CapandBall
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Who needs a counteroffensive? Ukraine has already won. I heard and read about it on the news.


37 posted on 09/04/2023 8:44:48 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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