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Events-driven Moderator activities - another look at guidelines
9/21/01 | Lead Moderator

Posted on 09/21/2001 7:49:05 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Users of FreeRepublic deserve an explanation of recent moderator activities. By signing up to be a user of the forum, everyone agrees to abide by the posted guidelines. This is another look at those guidelines, the intent behind them - and some new guideline enhancements that are being incorporated that need the attention of everyone.


WHY GUIDELINES NOT RULES

Let’s begin first by hearing from Jim Robinson about the difference between guidelines and rules, and why FR has guidelines.

One thing I've always resisted on FR is having a lot of rules. Especially if they have to be strictly enforced. We've always had our general posting guidelines, but we like to leave a lot of latitude so as not to stifle debate.

It is our desire to keep out clearly inappropriate material, while allowing as much room as possible for debate.

Guidelines, rather than hard and fast rules presupposes that the success or failure of them rests with the users of FR. If there is a breakdown, the intent of the forum is compromised. Jim puts it this way.
We are a news and current events discussion site. We are conservatives. We are adults. The FR forum is a working forum where we are not only discussing news and issues that are important to us, but we are also planning and engaging in political activism projects. We do not appreciate being interrupted by people who want to post insults or smear attacks or personal attacks or otherwise try to disrupt our activities, etc.


WHAT WE WANT, AND DON’T WANT

We are looking for news articles, well written and well informed opinion, facts and usable information and certainly having some fun now and then while we pursue the goals of keeping our government as servant of the people - and not allowing it to make us more its servants.

In short, as the lead moderator, I don’t like having to wipe up after the children here. I don’t enjoy, nor do I or any of those who work with Jim, “want to be posting police or thought police and we also do not want to be referees or judges.” (The reason that is in quotes is because Jim said it as we talked about the focus of this post.) He also said:

Posters should strive to avoid flame-wars and feuds and/or avoid posting materials that are clearly not welcome here, and then we can all enjoy the forum much more and we will not need as much moderation.
Interruption and disruption, in a nutshell, angers many - and causes them to hit the abuse button. That button has been hit far too often of late - creating a higher number of abuse complaints than ever before seen on FR, averaging some 300-500 per day (multiple complaints on between 100 to 200 articles per day.) Needless to say, many of these posts were pulled - many of them due to some of the most vicious and ridiculous flame-wars ever witnessed on FR - along with every sort of violation of posting guidelines. Unfortunately causing otherwise perfectly good articles to disappear in the process.
Such flame-wars brought John Robinson to suggest, “outright prohibiting”of them - and to say, “These types of posts detract from the FR message, people don't come here [for them.] People should have the good sense not to start these threads. Unfortunately everything needs to be spelled out in clear lettering or somebody is going to miss the point.”
John is right. Personally, I enjoy what we call ‘freeping’ - reading the news, commenting on articles and keeping up with events. I don’t enjoy having to stop and handle abuse complaints, and neither does anyone who works to assist Jim in maintaining order here. That has led to the following.


DEBATE AND DISAGREEMENT - LESS TOLERANCE FOR FLAME-WARS

Disagreement is part of debate, of that there is no question. But too often debate ends with someone calling someone else stupid, or using vulgar names. Moderators review posts and abuse reports received, and keep an eye out for those posts and users that we feel cross the line into racism, profanity and personal attacks. When that happens, we have no choice but to act.

We attempt to be as flexible as we can in allowing reasoned and temperate disagreement, but you can indeed look for less tolerance now for flame-wars on FR. We have been, and will continue to pull posts that are obviously, or thoughtlessly designed to start flame-wars.

In addition to that strengthening of our intent to keep the forum less combative and focused more on our goals, there are additional clarifications and additions to posting guidelines which follow.


NEW MODERATOR PRACTICES - OLD AND NEW GUIDELINES

Because we are ‘at war’ with terrorism, you may already have seen the old WWII policy of ‘loose-lips sink ships’ stated in posts here - something Jim began here, and has recently been followed and resurrected by major media outlets.

The policy is simple. If you have information about military movement that has not been published in major media, and is not considered ‘public knowledge’ it may be inappropriate or unwise to post it on FR. In short, use the question-gauge of, ‘does this come from major media?’ If so, and if it has not already been posted before, the information will not violate the ‘loose-lips’ policy.

The following is not new to FR, but this policy has been tightened and will continue as needed.


RACISM POLICY - THE TIGHTEST GUIDELINE ON FR

It is probably best to outline what is, and what is not acceptable where the subject of race is concerned - since first and foremost, race has been used by the enemies of Constitutional limits on government to force the removal of many of our freedoms.


NOT ACCEPTABLE

Blatant racism is indeed an ugly thing - and all material that is blatantly racist will be pulled when it is found or reported. Posts that express open hatred of any race, including Arabs - particularly Americans of Arab descent - are candidates for removal, and the expulsion of the poster from FR.

I suggest keeping your anger focused on those who use race to divide and conquer, i.e., the hypocritical socialists in the U.S. who needlessly fan the fires of racism to their advantage. Bigotry is part of racism, and part of religious persecution in the United States and elsewhere.

We know that, but keep your eye on where most of this comes from. Flatly stated, it is not from mainstream Americans, although many have fallen prey to it. The prostitution of major media in support of the socialist elite in academia and government should be slapped down hard with prime examples of the lack of racism right here on FreeRepublic - we have many of all colors and race among us. Let use that, not fall prey to the guile and habits of our real enemies.


RACE ACCEPTABLE

News and articles that discuss racial issues such as quotas, immigration, education and hiring practices in rational ways aimed at problems and redress are permitted.

News and articles and replies which discuss events, identified terrorists and those nations that harbor them are certainly permitted - along with appropriate comments, including outrage that does not include vulgarity, profanity, advocacy of killing of innocents, and ‘nuke-em-all’ sentiments, etc.

Posts and discussion of the religious beliefs of the various sects of Islam (there are several) are also allowed, but are limited to absence of the inappropriate content noted prior in this section.

The US has declared ‘war on terrorism' and those who support it - but all Arabs and Arab nations are not included in the definition of ‘the enemy.' Remember that, and that President Bush said, "In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect."


NEEDLESS DUPLICATES

We have a lot of duplication. Part of the guidelines are that users seek to avoid needless duplication or multiple posts of the same article from the same source. That includes an effort to do a search on the headline of the article to see if it has already been posted - before posting.

Note carefully, the success or failure of preventing needless duplication is predicated on the use of the original source document headline at all times, so that searches on that headline will be successful if it was posted prior. Posts that do not use the original headline may be removed.

Understandably, many times there are two or more people preparing the same post at the same time, having done a search and not found the article posted. Many times people ask moderators to remove a post they found to be a duplicate.

In addition, moderators also remove duplicate posts that are placed in the forum at approximately the same time. This is not to say that important news items can not be re-posted on the forum at some number of hours after an original post was posted. Some of these are appropriate, and moderators are urged to weigh the significance of such duplicates and allow them where appropriate.


COMMENTS

We are, as always, open to your comments on moderator activities. Some have made what I feel are good suggestions, some of which have been incorporated into the practices of moderators.

Once again though, we are not open to suggestions that moderators be identified - our anonymity will remain the policy of FR.


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To: Admin Moderator
Chalk me up with those who aren't too sure about someone other than Jim deciding who stays and who goes. I say this, because it came as a bit of a shock to those of us in Puget Sound to find our local get-together was cancelled when our host was suddenly banned from FR a week before our scheduled hog roast. Rather a brutal way to throw the monkey wrench in chapter plans. Still don't know what he (our host) said, but can't imagine him saying anything offensive enough to be kicked off FreeRepublic. At the very least, our local officers should have been notified first.
41 posted on 09/21/2001 8:29:55 PM PDT by holyscroller
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To: Admin Moderator
Keep up the good work. It may appear thankless, but it is appreciated.
42 posted on 09/21/2001 8:34:25 PM PDT by Storm Orphan
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To: Tall_Texan
"If you can't make your point in under a hundred threads, give it a FREAKING rest, will ya???"

ROTFLMAO!!!

Exception made for FReepathon threads, however!

43 posted on 09/21/2001 8:34:57 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Southern Federalist
anti-Semitism is indeed something we look at as part of the overall bigotry problem. We pull much that is reported to us, and find a few on our own. If you see it, report it. Note that sometimes we don’t always agree with the abuse reporter, but I would say that in the majority of cases we do. FReepers are smart people - and we depend a great deal on them.
44 posted on 09/21/2001 8:35:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
PS - Another vote for Demidog to return.
45 posted on 09/21/2001 8:36:17 PM PDT by Storm Orphan
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To: The Real Deal
Thanks, Paul (-:
46 posted on 09/21/2001 8:36:32 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: All
I always go to "Latest Posts" first rather than articles, because that gets me to the "meat" first, what people are finding interesting or vital. Try that, and you'll skip the vanities.
47 posted on 09/21/2001 8:41:49 PM PDT by Quietly
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To: packrat01
Denounce their Big-A, and you're a heretic.

Renounce the big A and you're dead. It's an obligation, read their comic book...

48 posted on 09/21/2001 8:41:51 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: Admin Moderator
Thank you.
49 posted on 09/21/2001 8:41:53 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Silly
Extended news means news that has reached a maximum state of arousal.

I hope this helps you out.

50 posted on 09/21/2001 8:42:37 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator (The Unknown Moderator)
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To: holyscroller
"anything offensive enough to be kicked off"

The offensive material is posted in the user record. In many cases, there are long collections of that kind of thing. This gives an overall view, and adds weight to any decision to suspend or ban. Jim and John have the ability to restore posting privileges, and commonly do so, both at our request and that of others. Overall, we have made few mistakes, but you can bet we will make others, as any human being will.

51 posted on 09/21/2001 8:42:52 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
Half the posts from yesterday I was looking at got deleted for some reason. ALmost sems like we are goign too far with deleting posts......
52 posted on 09/21/2001 8:43:50 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: tutstar
You wouldn't believe how many black Freepers there are. And they're all thick-skinned, like any good Freeper should be!

Anybody gets really out of hand on the racist stuff, usually gets whacked down in a hurry. ;-)

53 posted on 09/21/2001 8:44:14 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: Storm Orphan
Thanks (-: We hope we'll see the day when our services are very rarely needed. (but, I won't bet on when that might be)
54 posted on 09/21/2001 8:44:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Watch it, buster... hehe
55 posted on 09/21/2001 8:46:38 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
A Breaking News post was just deleted talking of the UN. Its source was the NY Times. Why was it deleted? I am curious how yall can know if it is unsourced in such a short time.
56 posted on 09/21/2001 8:48:02 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: rwfromkansas
"too far with deleting posts"

Sometimes I agree, but - here is the problem. We can not cull out all objectionable posts on threads with hundreds of comments. Participants determine what stays up - period. If complaints run high - the thread goes.

57 posted on 09/21/2001 8:49:08 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

In short, as the lead moderator, I don’t like having to wipe up after the children here.

Well put. One thing very new I have noticed, and it troubles me greatly, is the tendency to brutalize anyone who doesn't automatically run with the pack, and then turn around and hit the "abuse" button on them for the sole reason that they do not agree with what the poster has posted. In my four years of Freeping I have never seen this kind of behavior, and it is a sad commentary on the state of conservative debate. It is the liberals who try to silence others.

But there are some here who rush to hit "abuse" not because someone violated the guidelines, but rather simply because they don't like what the person is saying. That is nanny state mentality, and a disgrace to the good name "Free Republic." Hats off to all of you who work to keep things running here.

58 posted on 09/21/2001 8:49:27 PM PDT by Zviadist
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To: Admin Moderator
true
59 posted on 09/21/2001 8:50:15 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Admin Moderator
I think the increase in abuse hits may also be an outgrowth of the recent explosion of anti-religious
bigotry. Maybe it will die down and you folks can take a break once the rest of us argue down the bigots.
60 posted on 09/21/2001 8:50:53 PM PDT by Storm Orphan
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