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Dick Durbin's re-election FAR from certain
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | October 9, 2001 | Steve Neil

Posted on 10/09/2001 11:45:16 AM PDT by BillyBoy

Durbin re-election far from certain

October 8, 2001
BY STEVE NEAL SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

He's not a sure thing. Senator Richard J. "Dick" Durbin (D-Ill.) , though leading in early polls, may be facing a difficult race for a second term in 2002.

Durbin, 56, hasn't left many footprints in his first five years in the Senate. Earlier this year, a front-page analysis in the New York Times mistook Durbin for Sen. Alan J. Dixon, a fellow Downstater, who left the Senate in 1993.

That's Durbin's problem.

Even though he has been a member of the state's congressional delegation for 19 years, Durbin is unknown to many Illinois voters. He hasn't defined himself.

Democratic strategists are worried about Durbin's relatively low approval ratings and his anemic numbers on what is known as the generic re-election question.

Three Illinois senators have been defeated for re-election since 1984. Durbin's fate is far from certain.

According to the Almanac of American Politics, which is published by the nonpartisan National Journal, more than one-third of Illinois voters are unaware of Durbin. He is rated favorably by 47 percent of Illinois voters and unfavorably by 17 percent, according to the almanac.

Durbin, who has been on opposite sides of issues ranging from abortion to trade, doesn't seem to have an ideological focus. That could be a liability and is one of the reasons that the New York Times confused him with Dixon, who also tried to be all things to all people.

According to a recent GOP-sponsored poll, Durbin is potentially vulnerable. Only 39 percent of Illinois voters said that they would "definitely" or "probably" vote for his re-election, compared with 31 percent who favored a "new person."

Only 51 percent of strong Democrats said they favored Durbin's re-election, while 21 percent preferred a new person. Only 41 percent of independents said they favored Durbin's re-election.

The statewide poll of 800 likely voters was conducted in the late summer by the Washington, D.C., firm of Public Opinion Strategies.

When respondents were asked about their impressions of Durbin, their comments indicate why he could be in trouble.

"He seems to sit on a fence," a strong Democratic voter said. "Make up your mind, sonny. He seems like he hesitates before he says something. Say what you mean. Like the Indians say, a forked tongue. You don't know whether to go left or right, so he goes straight and says the wrong thing."

Another Democrat added: "He's a good talker. He don't get much accomplished, but he is a good talker. Good public relations man.... He can go with either side of anything and make it sound good."

A middle-age ticket-splitter said, "With all due respect, he talks out of the side of his mouth. Maybe because he's not believable. I don't buy what he says because he always appears like he wants to play both ends, and into the middle. Whether he agrees or disagrees, he goes with it. He is a true politician, and he just rubs me wrong."

"I don't know him very well, so I cannot say too much about him," said a middle-age Democratic woman.

A young Republican woman said almost the same thing: "I really don't know him.... I don't recall. It's just if I hear the name, I don't know if I like him or I don't." "I guess there haven't been any scandals with him. There hasn't been anything positive, and there hasn't been anything negative that he has done," said a young African-American woman who leans Democratic.

A young white female, who is independent, said: "I can't relate his name to anything."

An older white independent female said that Durbin is "too much Washington, D.C. He is a Washington man, and I don't have any faith in anybody in Washington, D.C., except maybe the president."

"He goes with the political wind. He's very interested in his own career. I think he's extremely partisan," said an older white Republican woman. "I really don't think he's in touch. He's certainly not in touch with his constituents, or at least he's not in touch with this constituent. I really think he's a Washington politician, period, in the most negative sense. He hogs the limelight and is only interested in furthering his political career."

Durbin, who lost his first two political races in the 1970s , has won his last seven elections. Next year could be tougher.


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Hey, Freepers! Told ya dopey Dickie Durbin was vunerable. Stop with your "Illinois a liberal state...he'll never lose" yapping. If that were true, we'd still have Carol Mostly-Fraud as our Senator.

The main difference between Durbin and Mostly-Fraud is that Durbin hasn't been hurt by any "scandals", which means he'll faces an advantage going into November 2002. But that certainly doesn't make him IMMUNE to defeat.

Furthermore, this article is written by none other than Steve Neal, a nortouously liberal political anaylist. Neal is always propping up far left wing morons in this state as being "rising stars" and dissing conservative Republicans as all being jokes. His bias is most notable when he writes columns talking about how great it is that a liberal Democrat beat a "moderate" Democrat in the primary; but then he goes on to talk about how much better it would be if a "centrist" Republican (i.e. a RINO) defeats the conservative candidates here.

If EVEN Steve Neal is saying Durbin is vunerable, then Durbin IS vunerable.

Control of the Senate will be decided by the states on the mightly mississippi next year. We're one of them. In addition to the unknown John Cox challenging Dick Durbin, there are a handful of strong Republican candidates who COULD enter the race against Durbin next year but have not announced. I'm personally gunning for former Governor Edgar to run (kinda the Illinois version of Rudy Giuliani-- pretty liberal on social issues, but actually CARES about the people so he's earned the respect of the conservatives). If don't like Edgar, that's fine...write to Jack Ryan or Mike Singletary and encourage them to run. Just encourage SOMEONE!

The Illinois GOP better WAKE UP and start putting up a fight here with the opportunity they got. Let's get out there and freep the Dick!

DUMP DURBIN 2002

;-)

1 posted on 10/09/2001 11:45:16 AM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: BillyBoy
"Duck" Durbin
2 posted on 10/09/2001 11:56:01 AM PDT by STD
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To: BillyBoy
Well I for one will be working hard to unseat DICK Durbin....just ask Carol Mosely Fraud.
3 posted on 10/09/2001 12:00:59 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: BillyBoy
Durbin, who has been on opposite sides of issues ranging from abortion to trade, doesn't seem to have an ideological focus.

Sure he does, just check to see which way the wind is blowing

4 posted on 10/09/2001 12:04:28 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: BillyBoy
I'm Catholic, Durbin's Catholic, but he shafts the Church every chance that comes his way. I hope he loses.

Who's (GOP) likely to challenge him? We do need a winner!

5 posted on 10/09/2001 12:06:28 PM PDT by onyx
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To: BillyBoy
At hearings of any commitees he's on, he always takes the most extreme Democrat position so I figured he must be in a safe seat. It would be terrific to have him gone.
6 posted on 10/09/2001 12:11:01 PM PDT by Deb
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To: BillyBoy
HURRAH!

Durbin is a clymer who has IRRITATED the heck out of me ever since I first saw him on the Senate floor. Blathering like only a trial lawyer can, he finds every conceivable way to argue with reasonable positions...after all, his desire to circumvent Constitutional freedoms is matched ONLY by his obvious quest for PERSONAL power and self-aggrandizement.

He and John Edwards are liberal wolves in sheep clothing, and making sure they are defeated at the ballot box next time around should be a TOP priority of every FREEPer in their states.

7 posted on 10/09/2001 12:11:03 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Degaston, Diotoma, Saluki Lawyer, DanfromMichigan, MamaLucci, SpinTreeBob, soccergirl, Mean Spirited
SOME HELPFUL LINKS:

John Cox for U.S. Senate-- Offical Website

COX first Republican to announce run against Senator Durbin

Rags to Riches Republican Targets Illinois Sen. Durbin (D) for Defeat

CALL TO ACTION FREEPERS: Help show Senator "Dick" Durbin the door

Columnist Steve Neal attacks Senator Fitzgerald (R-IL) as "spolied rich kid"-- FREEP this idiot!

And just for members of the Chicagoland Chapter:

***EXCLUSIVE CHAPTER POLL*** Who should we back for the Senate in 2002?

8 posted on 10/09/2001 12:13:56 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: SJackson
You got that right.
10 posted on 10/09/2001 12:15:27 PM PDT by WhiteKnuckles
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To: BillyBoy
Mike Singletary - LOL.

I think Durbin is Carl Levin's Twin. And it is a similar situation unless a Jim Edgar runs.

Both are running in dem leaning states, with big cities and inner suburbs tilting the election that way. Chicago with Peoria and Springfield as a lesser case in your state, Detroit with the Saginaw Valley(Flint, Saginaw, Bay City), Lansing, and Ann Arbor in Mine.

It will be a longshot, especially to take out Levin, but should we try? HELL YEAH! And if I lived in IL, I'd vote for Durbin's opponent, whoever it is. Even if the GOP'er wasn't great on guns. The GOP senator wouldn't vote for Chuck Scumer and Pat Leahy on judiciary, and they can't be worse than Lenin or Durbin on this issue anyway.

Two words

COMMITTEES
JUDGES

11 posted on 10/09/2001 12:17:20 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: BillyBoy
"Democratic strategists are worried about Durbin's relatively low approval ratings and his anemic numbers on what is known as the generic re-election question." (Chicago Sun-Times)

Gee, does this mean that making yourself one of the Senate's top antigun nuts and anti-cigarette tyrants doesn't endear you back home in Illinois - particularly outside of the Chicago area?

Does this mean that - even with the help of the Daley machine - sharing Richard Daley's antigun passions doesn't sell outside of Chicago well enough to make a Democratic incumbent's reelection reasonably a sure thing?

Scandals of antigun politicians - coast to coast!

12 posted on 10/09/2001 12:21:42 PM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: BillyBoy
Durbin was a HUGE Clinton Supporter during impeachment...

Enough reason for me to defeat him

13 posted on 10/09/2001 12:31:53 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: BillyBoy
DUMP DURBIN 2002

Abso-freepin-lutely! I will do my part, BillyBoy. Thanks for the headsup.
14 posted on 10/09/2001 1:31:22 PM PDT by MamaLucci
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To: Dan from Michigan
>> And if I lived in IL, I'd vote for Durbin's opponent, whoever it is. Even if the GOP'er wasn't great on guns. The GOP senator wouldn't vote for Chuck Scumer and Pat Leahy on judiciary <<<

See, Illinois Freepers, even DanfromMichigan would hold his nose and vote for a "moderate" like Governor Edgar to kick Durbin out! Dan makes a good point about judges. Even if in a worse-case scenario--pick out a liberal-light Illinois Republican like "Bill Jim" Thompson-- they'll STILL better than Durbin. Thompson testified in FAVOR of Robert Bork's nomination, for instance. Can you imagine DICK Durbin doing that? Our guy is so far left he makes Lincoln Chafee look conservative.

It's really nice to see that five years of Durbin's swarmy, cocky attitude on the Senate floor has finally caught up with him. He looks like he's going to lose his "hometown" of Springfield for the same reason Gore lost Tennessee-- he's become a Daley-machine whore and abandoned his hometown roots.

Let's just pray the Illinois Republican Party is not too stupid to take advantage of this sitution.

15 posted on 10/09/2001 4:04:34 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: Alamo-Girl, Chi-town Chief, chicagolady, FAB, Franklin1776, Fu-fu2, GRRRRR, guy737sw, John Farson
Looks like we're luckier than we thought. Lock and load, Freepers!
16 posted on 10/09/2001 4:50:21 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: jreb, justshutupandtakeit, Keyes For President, Lazamataz, March I up, Mr_Magoo, NMC EXP,
Looks like we're luckier than we thought. Lock and load, Freepers!
17 posted on 10/09/2001 4:51:24 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: Notforprophet, NotJustAnotherPrettyFace, RedWing9, retrokitten, Satadru, secessionist
Looks like we're luckier than we thought. Lock and load, Freepers!
18 posted on 10/09/2001 4:52:18 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: spinner55,supercat,TheRightGuy, usconservative, nomad, Illinois GOP (I know you lurk here!)
Looks like we're luckier than we thought. Lock and load, Freepers!
19 posted on 10/09/2001 4:53:17 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: BillyBoy
I tried to not get Durbin in when he went against Al Salvi. This guy is a bum and has to go, I am working for the Judy Biggert campaign but I don't care who's going against him I'll support him.
20 posted on 10/09/2001 5:25:53 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: BillyBoy
Gary Fencik
21 posted on 10/09/2001 7:04:44 PM PDT by MrFred
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To: BillyBoy
Thanks for the heads up!
22 posted on 10/09/2001 7:38:55 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Deb
At hearings of any commitees he's on, he always takes the most extreme Democrat position so I figured he must be in a safe seat.

I wouldn't consider his seat to be safe by any stretch of the imagination. If we can elect Peter Fitzgerald, by FAR amongst the most conservative candidates to run for an elected office voted on all across this state and DUMP Carol Mostly-Fraud (which many of us ILL Freepers worked very hard to do), we can un-elect Tricky Dick Durbin and get a good replacement elected. The key to this, of course, is to find a good candidate to run against him.

It would be terrific to have him gone.

I consider that an understatement. Dick Durbin, as shown by his actions, apparently has studied the Clintonista Playbook and knows how to fence-sit and triangulate with the best of them. But I find it interesting that the hard-core Democrats in this article are onto that, which I find very hopeful.

23 posted on 10/09/2001 8:24:37 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Dengar01
You know, I think the '96 campaign against Salvi shows why Durbin is having so much trouble attracting support on his own merits. The ONLY people I meet back in '96 who were happy to support Durbin were the hard-core, yellow dog Democrats. The rest of the fools who voted for Durbin ONLY did so because they didn't like Salvi. Durbin had villified Salvi so much that half the state was convinced he would hand out machine guns to five year olds.

With a GOP candidate that won't suffer from lack of money and a defensive stragedy, we can turn the tables on Durbin and make HIM the extremist. His record isn't selling in suburbs or the downstate area he claims to be "from". Geesh, he's so bad he makes Paul Simon look honest and mainstream. ;-)

24 posted on 10/09/2001 10:37:07 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: BillyBoy
"ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US."
25 posted on 10/09/2001 10:38:07 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: BillyBoy,redwing9,diotima
Looks like we're luckier than we thought. Lock and load, Freepers!

I'm passing petitions for Cox, and I have plenty of kits (petitions, literature, buttons, bumper stickers) for any who would help. Send FReepmail.

26 posted on 10/10/2001 5:46:58 AM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: BillyBoy
BUMP!!!
27 posted on 10/10/2001 7:27:19 AM PDT by March I up
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To: BillyBoy
Since Durbin is on the Senate Intelligence Committee we need to tie the failure of U.S. intelligence agencies to him. While he is running around on the GrabGun bandwagon the knowledge that bin Laden was recruiting and training suicide pilots was ignored.

I hate to think the Republicans will put up another inexperienced rich white guy as an alternative. These guys try to buy their way into the World's Most Exclusive Club and it does not say much for the state party when that happens. Edgar would beat him big time. Of the currently predicted candidates I much prefer him since he would win.

28 posted on 10/10/2001 8:42:17 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: My fellow freepers
Many people doesn't seem aware that Dickie lost two statewide races before. He'll be experencing deja vu if I have my way. ;-)
29 posted on 10/10/2001 11:30:57 AM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: MrFred
Dick Butkus
30 posted on 10/10/2001 11:37:46 AM PDT by MamaLucci
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To: BillyBoy

INSERT CAPTION HERE
32 posted on 10/10/2001 6:36:43 PM PDT by MrFred
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To: onyx
>> I'm Catholic, Durbin's Catholic, but he shafts the Church every chance that comes his way. I hope he loses. <<

If it makes ya feel better, Illinois' other Senator is a devote Catholic who refused to water down his beliefs that abortion was unacceptable in all circumstances, including rape and incest. All the talking heads proclaimed that this stance would kill his campaign. Shows what they know. ;-)

33 posted on 10/11/2001 11:30:42 AM PDT by BillyBoy
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