Arrested Men's Shaved Bodies Drew Suspicion of the F.B.I.

The New York Times ^ | October 26, 2001 | CHRISTOPHER DREW and RALPH BLUMENTHAL

[FITZ]

Depends on what you call torture I guess, drugs with torture---it doesn't have to be gouging out eyes, maybe carefully applied electric current would be better. Anything to save innocent lives. I'd rather hear about these men given electric shocks than see pictures of permanently maimed children in Afghanistan or Americans jumping out of 100 story buildings.

[GADIST64]

Maybe they just left a date with Gary Condit...That would explain the all the money on hand....that was used to pay them for disposing of Chandra Levy.

[dennisw]

Depends on what you call torture I guess..............

There are many levels of torture. Low level torture, meaning no maiming, along with certain drugs will do the trick in my opinion. The subjects in question are not hardened enough to resist it

[dennisw]

That hadith search is not working at the moment. It was a real treasure. Just entering Jew or Jihad in the bottom box got many COOL hits.

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

[fredtaps]

Ohh, more poor illegal immigrants coming here for a better life...

[Slyfox]

Ayub Ali Khan and Mohammed Jaweed Azmath,
might have been ready to die in a similar attack, and were "prepared to meet Allah,"

You know, it's not too late to be sending them on their way.

[GnL]

Interesting. That's what I thought when I saw the photo, too.

[Bryan24]

Late last week, federal prosecutors charged Mohammad Aslam Pervez, a third man who had shared a Jersey City apartment with Mr. Khan and Mr. Azmath, with lying about more than $100,000 that had flowed in and out of his bank account....

The F.B.I. also recently tested the Jersey City apartment for signs of anthrax, and its agents have looked into a tip that Mr. Azmath may have been seen in 1993, around the time of the van-bombing of the World Trade Center, in an apartment with a man who was later convicted in the assault. But officials said they doubted that Mr. Azmath had any connection to that attack.

HELLO?????

New Jersey apartment?

Notice that no mention was made of whether they found anthrax in this apartment.

[Prodigal Daughter]

I'll have to try that! I was going to enter "kill" too when I got the time. Those searches could be future threads!

I wonder if they pulled the website on purpose, maybe an FR infiltrator propagandist?

[dennisw]

Heh!
Maybe they will come back but the Koran search and the Hadith search are/were hosted by usc.edu which of course is University of Southern Californian. How nice to come to the USA and have your Muslim material hosted for free. Then you pull it when you find out it just may be used against you.

My own feeling is that the Hadith commentaries have a lot more nasty material than the Koran

[woollyone]

My guess is that by shaving body hair, there is less of a chance of leaving DNA evidence at a crime scene.

[boycott]

Agreed. This trash needs to be tortured. Enough of the PC bs.

[No Me Chingas]

There are many levels of torture.

Keep them awake for 72 hours straight and they'll spill everything. The sleep deprivation also makes them too disoriented to make stuff up.

[samtheman]

I hear the Mexican cops get good results from forcing hot 7-Up up the nostrils. Combined with 12volt battery shocks. Does no permanent harm and is extremely painful. Supposedly a lot of people "loosened up" under the tender care and mercy of the Mexican police.

Sounds good to me.

[syriacus]

Interesting. That's what I thought when I saw the photo, too.

Glad to hear I'm not alone in thinking that the guy on the right looks like John Doe #2. John Doe #2 is supposed to have looked like a Cuban (or Native American) to one eyewitness, and this guy looks like an angry Ricky Ricardo.

Also, this article says, agents have looked into a tip that Mr. Azmath may have been seen in 1993, around the time of the van-bombing of the World Trade Center, in an apartment with a man who was later convicted in the assault.

That sounds similar to John Doe #2, who was seen in connection with the OKC truck bombing.

[VOA]

bump

[syriacus]

John Doe #2

[InkStone]

T O R T U R E - Are You Crazy ?? That could hurt their self esteem !

[OWK]

[Billthedrill]

Interesting link, thanks. I was unaware of any references to this custom in Islam, but I do know that many Turkish women depilate on a regular basis. Not the men, though, at least the ones I met. Not sure I'd care to suggest it to them, either. Long, sharp knives, dontcha know...