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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
Keep it alive!

If anything there needs to be more topically related and 'sticky' sites out there. The sheeple need educating. If it weren't for this site and a few others, a lot of people (including myself) would be missing out on a lot of VERY important information.

All I can do at this point is possibly donate some IT expertise (I'll send a resume if you like.)

141 posted on 11/28/2001 7:55:13 PM PST by Looking4Truth
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To: Jim Robinson
check you freepmail and email, I just sent you something that is related to this thread. It won't solve the problem but I think it cold draw more donations.
142 posted on 11/28/2001 7:55:24 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: Jim Robinson; JohnHuang2
This thread will break all records, all we need now is the "Kibg of Ping" JohnHuang2 :-)
143 posted on 11/28/2001 7:55:36 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: Jim Robinson
"Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web."

Those who want something else, should go somewhere else!

144 posted on 11/28/2001 7:55:48 PM PST by Barnacle
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To: LJLucido
I can see it now....comments like:

"HEY, I paid my $10, so I can swear, blaspheme, and threaten all I want."

145 posted on 11/28/2001 7:56:58 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: BADJOE
Count me in. I will send my donation!
146 posted on 11/28/2001 7:57:07 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, You have a popular site here, for good reason. It is simply the best discussion site on the internet. I know that people have made claims about your finances, and honestly, I have no opinion on that. But I do think those claims only have whatever weight they do because of the donation model you run FR on. If you turned it into a for profit business nobody would care how much you paid yourself or demand that you reveal your expenses. It could be ad based or subscription based or however you think. We are all capitalists here, there is no sin in doing business. Why not try that?
147 posted on 11/28/2001 7:57:35 PM PST by mlo
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To: Timesink
Well, it can't become a for-profit website, because reposting other publications' stories for profit is stealing, not research.

Just spotted your post. Point well taken. Maybe as others have suggested, a "maintenance fee" for posting would be a little more appropriate.
148 posted on 11/28/2001 7:58:03 PM PST by k2blader
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To: Jim Robinson
Please keep the site. I'm new, but I really like comming here. I don't understand why anyone would object to this site or the articles and posts written in it. There's some miserable people in this world, and it would be nice if they'd go somewhere else.
149 posted on 11/28/2001 7:58:07 PM PST by anti-lucifer left
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To: Jim Robinson
Don't get discouraged Jim.

This site is the best forum on the internet, and as for the detractors. They can gripe all they want, because nobody in here is paying any attention to them.

150 posted on 11/28/2001 7:58:41 PM PST by jerod
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To: Looking4Truth
Tell 'ya one thing, people love this site so much your bandwidth provider will see a huge spike and try to sell you more stuff. :-)
151 posted on 11/28/2001 7:58:49 PM PST by Looking4Truth
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To: mercy
It is a crime if you are not making a profit here

Huh?

Jim's an 18th century sorta guy, I guess. The sort willing to lay down his life and his fortune for what's right.

Perhaps you've been confused by our current state of affairs into thinking those that "fight the good fight" should always stand to make some money on the deal.

152 posted on 11/28/2001 7:58:57 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Jim Robinson; Inspector Harry Callahan
common IHC, I know your a decent guy. I too know what it is like to be "isolated out" from groups. The crap that is posted on the ani-FR threads are all nothing but made up BS by ex-FReepers with hurt feelings.

You need to realize that this site is one of a kind, and cannot be reproduced. Please to not contribute to it's demise, but help it be the best it can be.

True, outlandish conspiracies are not quite welcome here, but what this site IS about, true conservatism, is a voice that needs to be heard.

I am an avid believer that if not for this very site, we would not have our great president in office that we do. We must all support this oasis of light in the web full of darkness.

153 posted on 11/28/2001 7:59:04 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: VA Advogado
to #87

What is wrong with JohnHuang2? I love his posts

me too, he's my net-buddy! I put that after suggesting they might have to limit posts.

154 posted on 11/28/2001 7:59:11 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm amazed you can do it for as little as you are. If this were a corporate site, you would be making tons personally.

I'm in on this fundraiser...and since I might snag my wife's card...I'm upping mine too.

Thank you Jim ,and your family.

155 posted on 11/28/2001 7:59:19 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: anniegetyourgun; Jim Robinson
Sorry to hear that. These are not your friends, but your enemies.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Or something like that......

Please don't shut down FreeRepublic Jim, we need it. There isn't anything else like it out there.

I already contribute monthly but I am willing to pay a fee too if that is what it takes to keep us up and running.

Don't let the turkeys get you down.

156 posted on 11/28/2001 7:59:50 PM PST by SeaDragon
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To: Jim Robinson
OK!OK! check #1014 $50.00 on its way.Very much worth it, even though I wont be able to get myself a Christmas present. I so had my eye on one of those foot massage thingies.
157 posted on 11/28/2001 8:00:11 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Jim Robinson
I recently spent some time in Eschoir's anti-FReeper site after finding out that I was a topic of conversation there.

All they do is discuss FR, it's like a soap opera fan club in there!

Look, I love FR, spend way too much time here, get in trouble way too often here, and if you shut the site down tomorrow, I would miss it...but I would have lots and lots of other things in my life that would fill up the void quickly. I don't think that's the case with the bozo's at that site. Their FR personna IS them now!

Maintain the site as long as you can, understandable if you can't.

Either way, good work and God bless you and yours.

158 posted on 11/28/2001 8:00:15 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Looking4Truth
Tell 'ya one thing, people love this site so much your bandwidth provider will see a huge spike and try to sell you more stuff. :-)

....because of this thread.

159 posted on 11/28/2001 8:00:30 PM PST by Looking4Truth
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To: Jim Robinson
stay
160 posted on 11/28/2001 8:00:40 PM PST by InvisibleChurch
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