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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
Damn liberals want to take you down Jim, keep fighting, we will support you. The more successful you are the more enemies you have. Welcome to the club.
61 posted on 11/28/2001 7:43:45 PM PST by WileyCoyote22
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To: BADJOE
Freepathon starts Saturday.

$80,000 or bust. : )

Bump

62 posted on 11/28/2001 7:43:48 PM PST by Exigence
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To: Jim Robinson
Let the market work, Jim. One of my Christmas wishes for myself is to be able to pay you a monthly. Hope it comes true this year.

I challenge all SASters who frequent FR to also find a way to make a monthly donation to FR.

Without Free Republic, there would be no Second Amendment Sisters, and Rosie & X42 would have found a way to take your guns!


63 posted on 11/28/2001 7:43:49 PM PST by Hotline
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To: Jim Robinson
I am flabbergasted to find out the great expenses you incur to keep this place going. I'm sure it will be an eye-opener to all those who use and enjoy this site on a daily basis. Time to open those wallets, folks,and let the moths fly out! FreeRepublic is essential to keep conservatism alive on the net and in real life. Everyone should contribute whatever they can to keep FR going.

Jim, thanks to you and John for valor above and beyond the call of duty. You've been willing to stick your necks out to support freedom, liberty, free expression, and decency, often at great personal sacrifice.

Free Republic must never go away. Tell us what we have to do, and we will do it.

You have my complete support. Not one of your detractors is man enough to take your place. You and Free Republic are an irreplaceable force for conservatism in America.

May God bless and prosper you always!

64 posted on 11/28/2001 7:43:52 PM PST by Palladin
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To: anniegetyourgun
You are right...it's been so nice without the "children" around....
65 posted on 11/28/2001 7:44:17 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: BADJOE
Double my monthly. Get back to me if you need more information, and thanks for all your hard work here.
66 posted on 11/28/2001 7:44:40 PM PST by cayuga
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To: Jim Robinson
Hey I have an idea. How about you limit the bandwidth to lurkers. You set a cookie then throttle them back. If they want a bit more access they have to register. Then if they participate a lot they can start paying for more bandwidth.

For me, I'd be happy with a slow connection that timed out or only let me in for 10 minutes every X hours. Or some crazy formula like that. Then if something came up like the impeachment deal or Florida tries to steal the election--then I'd gladly pay for more service that month. And obviously you can set up better deals for those that pay yearly.

67 posted on 11/28/2001 7:44:45 PM PST by for-q-clinton
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To: Miss Marple; Lady In Blue; PhiKapMom; Teacup; Irma; Howlin; GUIDO; Southflanknorthpawsis...
FYI
68 posted on 11/28/2001 7:44:50 PM PST by deport
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To: Jim Robinson
I cannot see how you could be 'ripping anyone off' when the money is freely donated and there is no promist of a free toaster or anything to make people think they are going to get a 'gift' for joining. It's not like anyone is forced to contribute. I only wonder if I am contributing enough to cover the costs associated with my personal use of your site, since I'd like to make sure no one else is picking up my tab! And I'd like to make sure there is some extra change in the kitty for newbies to join in.
69 posted on 11/28/2001 7:45:03 PM PST by piasa
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To: Jim Robinson
Why not sell ads? As popular as this place is, it seems like one ad at the top of every thread should bring in a ton of cash. Is there something about a LLC that forbids that?
70 posted on 11/28/2001 7:45:14 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Jim Robinson
"Great Spirits have long encountered fierce opposition from mediocre minds."

-Albert Einstein

71 posted on 11/28/2001 7:45:18 PM PST by IncPen
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To: Jim Robinson
Funny how freedom works. Nobody makes you post. Nobody makes you read. Nobody makes you contribute. But I have and will continue to do all of the above.

Jim, I'd like to see FR grow as a broad-based, freedom-loving, conservative activist organization. Among other things this could assist in raising the funds necessary to maintain and grow this site. FReegards.

72 posted on 11/28/2001 7:45:25 PM PST by Faraday
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To: Jim Robinson
wow, your monthlies are higher than I imagined ... I'll just have have to double my monthly donation, and hope it helps a bit.

Seriously, I would be in a major news deficit without this site. I know I have friends, and brothers, here that I would miss, so whatever I can contribute, I will glady give.

Semper Fi

73 posted on 11/28/2001 7:45:27 PM PST by fnord
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I hope you will keep the site going just as it is. Certainly most of us do not believe we are being ripped off by you, or anyone else affiliated with this forum.
You have done a great service to the conservative cause, there is no other website that even begins to compare.
Those who are saying all of these things do not represent the majority of Freepers!
I will guarantee that the yeahs will out shout the nays.
Thank you for all you have done to promote the conservative cause! Those who do not like it, may leave, but don't take this forum from the rest of us because of them! Please!
75 posted on 11/28/2001 7:45:36 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: denydenydeny
Can I pay you to ban Arator again?

Hey, you just might be on to something there!

Also, maybe FR can charge a fee for each vanity thread, or any thread that starts with Cheese, Moose, TouristGuy, Ted Nugent or George Carlin.

76 posted on 11/28/2001 7:45:50 PM PST by LJLucido
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To: Jim Robinson
This site is the best on the Net. Go to a pay-per-use format. I support you now and will continue in the future.
77 posted on 11/28/2001 7:45:51 PM PST by Umanbean
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To: Jim Robinson
Ack! No FreeRepublic? No-no-no-no-no-no!!!!! This is the ONLY place on the web for the very latest breaking news. This is the only place where we can sound off about events and public figures. I've met some fantastic people through FR, and feel I make a contribution in my own small way. I can't contribute much now (in fact I've only been able to afford one donation so far), but I have faith that the future will be brighter.

Please keep FreeRepublic up and running!

78 posted on 11/28/2001 7:45:55 PM PST by LeeMcCoy
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To: Jim Robinson
Tell me where to send you a monthly check Jim.
79 posted on 11/28/2001 7:45:59 PM PST by BERZERKER
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To: DouglasKC
Selling internet ads doesn't bring much revenue. No one clicks them.
80 posted on 11/28/2001 7:46:02 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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