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Explorers View 'Lost City' Ruins Under Caribbean
Reuters ^ | December 6, 2001 | Andrew Cawthorne

Posted on 12/06/2001 9:37:13 PM PST by spycatcher

HAVANA (Reuters) - Explorers using a miniature submarine to probe the sea floor off the coast of Cuba said on Thursday they had confirmed the discovery of stone structures deep below the ocean surface that may have been built by an unknown human civilization thousands of years ago.

Researchers with a Canadian exploration company said they filmed over the summer ruins of a possible submerged ``lost city'' off the Guanahacabibes Peninsula on the Caribbean island's western tip. The researchers cautioned that they did not fully understand the nature of their find and planned to return in January for further analysis, the expedition leader said on Thursday.

The explorers said they believed the mysterious structures, discovered at the astounding depth of around 2,100 feet and laid out like an urban area, could have been built at least 6,000 years ago. That would be about 1,500 years earlier than the great Giza pyramids of Egypt.

``It's a really wonderful structure which looks like it could have been a large urban center,'' said Soviet-born Canadian ocean engineer Paulina Zelitsky, from British Columbia-based Advanced Digital Communications (ADC). ``However, it would be totally irresponsible to say what it was before we have evidence,'' Zelitsky told Reuters.

Zelitsky said the structures may have been built by unknown people when the current sea-floor actually was above the surface. She said volcanic activity may explain how the site ended up at great depths below the Caribbean Sea.

In July 2000, ADC researchers using sophisticated side-scan sonar equipment identified a large underwater plateau with clear images of symmetrically organized stone structures that looked like an urban development partly covered by sand. From above, the shapes resembled pyramids, roads and buildings, they said.

``ULISES'' ASSISTS UNDERWATER ODYSSEY

This past July, ADC researchers, along with the firm's Cuban partner and experts from the Cuban Academy of Sciences, returned to the site in their ship ``Ulises.'' They said they sent a miniature, unmanned submarine called a Remotely Operated Vehicle (ROV) down to film parts of the 7.7-square-mile area.

Those images confirmed the presence of huge, smooth, cut granite-like blocks in perpendicular and circular formations, some in pyramid shapes, the researchers said. Most of the blocks, measuring between about 6.5 and 16 feet in length, were exposed, some stacked one on another, the researchers said. Others were covered in sediment and the fine, white sand that characterizes the area, the researchers said.

The intriguing discovery provided evidence that Cuba at one time was joined to mainland Latin America via a strip of land from the Yucatan Peninsula, the researchers said.

``There are many new hypotheses about land movement and colonialization, and what we are seeing here should provide very interesting new information,'' Zelitsky said.

ADC's deep-water equipment includes a satellite-integrated ocean bottom positioning system, high-precision side-scan double-frequency sonar, and the ROV. The company currently is commissioning what it calls the world's first custom-designed ocean excavator for marine archeology to begin work both at the Guanahacabibes site and at ship wrecks.

ADC is the deepest operator among four foreign firms working in joint venture with President Fidel Castro (news - web sites)'s government to explore Cuban waters containing hundreds of treasure-laden ships from the colonial era. The Canadian company already has discovered several historic sunken Spanish ships.

In an earlier high-profile find, ADC was testing equipment in late 2000 off Havana Bay when it spotted the century-old wreck of the American battleship USS Maine. The ship had not been located since it blew up mysteriously in 1898, killing 260 American sailors and igniting the Spanish-American War.

The rush of interest in Cuba's seas in recent years is due in part to the Castro government's recognition that it does not have the money or technology to carry out systematic exploration by itself, although it does have excellent divers.

American companies are prohibited from operating in Cuba by the long-running U.S. embargo on the Communist-run island.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; Cuba; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: atlantis; canada; caribbean; catastrophism; cuba; godsgravesglyphs; history; noteworthy; paulinazelitsky; paulinazelitzky; plato; russia; russianreliability; sunkencivilizations
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Old background info posted here

For some reason the Free Republic search engine doesn't search posts more than a week or two old, so a more recent posted update isn't available to link. I found this old one using Google, but they don't index more recent FR stuff.

1 posted on 12/06/2001 9:37:13 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
Hello, Atlantis. MAYBE....:)
2 posted on 12/06/2001 9:40:26 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: rwfromkansas
Here's the more recent exclusive that scooped the mainstream media by two weeks and prompted Reuters to update their original report.
3 posted on 12/06/2001 9:47:27 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: rwfromkansas
Atlantis?

No.

Flash Gordon's secret base.

4 posted on 12/06/2001 9:51:06 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: spycatcher
What remained of The Maine was refloated after the investigation into her explosion. She was towed to sea beyond the 12 mile limit and scuttled in International waters. The location of her re-sinking has been known since that time. Again, the press can't get it right.
5 posted on 12/06/2001 9:53:50 PM PST by Traction
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To: Phil V.
I doubt Atlantis is as large as initially thought, but at the same time, the literary record speaks of such a place. Contrary to most people who just brush off something they think is too far-fetched, I at least have an open mind on this. This may not be it, but it is one of the areas that is looked at geographically.
6 posted on 12/06/2001 9:54:36 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: spycatcher
Seems to coincide well with the age of the Flood. More evidence!
7 posted on 12/06/2001 9:56:31 PM PST by CalConservative
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To: spycatcher
Probably natural rock formations.
8 posted on 12/06/2001 9:57:13 PM PST by crypt2k
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To: spycatcher
Zelitsky said the structures may have been built by unknown people when the current sea-floor actually was above the surface.

Interesting theory....

9 posted on 12/06/2001 10:07:54 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: blam
Another lost city thread. :^)
10 posted on 12/06/2001 10:09:15 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: Traction
Scientists stumble upon sunken Maine
11 posted on 12/06/2001 10:11:29 PM PST by crypt2k
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To: spycatcher
Lost city? How careless can one get? I mean, to misplace an entire city for centuries...
12 posted on 12/06/2001 10:12:24 PM PST by The_Expatriate
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To: Traction
You're right that it was found and raised but at the time it only had to be towed 3-4 miles out for reburial in international waters.
13 posted on 12/06/2001 10:12:26 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
Here's a link to the same story - different source: Update on Underwater Megalithic Structures near Western Cuba. Very interesting, many pictures and diagrams.
14 posted on 12/06/2001 10:14:47 PM PST by jrewingjr
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To: Phil V.
"Atlantis" was a myth totally invented by Plato. Whatever this is, it's not Atlantis -- if nothing else, there wasn't any contact between the west and east hemispheres!
15 posted on 12/06/2001 10:15:39 PM PST by Anotherpundit
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To: jrewingjr
Hey I just posted that! Thanks anyhow, but what I couldn't find was the Free Republic post of that same article from a couple of weeks ago.
16 posted on 12/06/2001 10:17:16 PM PST by spycatcher
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Speaking of scooped, sorry I did not see your link in #3 when I posted my reply. Stupid eyes! Everyone should check it out. I listened to the story on the air and checked out the site a couple of weeks ago. Really amazing stuff.
17 posted on 12/06/2001 10:19:50 PM PST by jrewingjr
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To: Phil V.
Flash Gordon's secret base has a higher probability.

Plato definitively located Atlantis as outside the pillars of Hercules. And he ought to know, since he made it up.

As in other of his writings, Plato made overt and exlicit use of myths and stories as instructional aids, especially for communicating moral lessons to children, which is the context in which the Atlantis story is put in the mouth of Timaeus.

It's a lot of fun to imagine a great ancient city lost beneath the waves, but that's all it is. The fact remains, there was no record of the Atlantis myth anywhere, ever, in any language, before Plato's stories.

It is a better thing to cultivate wonder at the mysteries of the real world, rather than to besot the imagination with idle fantasies...

18 posted on 12/06/2001 10:20:30 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: spycatcher
No, you fools, it's Fidel's underwater hideaway!
19 posted on 12/06/2001 10:21:03 PM PST by billybudd
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To: spycatcher
The Nameless City by H. P. Lovecraft
20 posted on 12/06/2001 10:22:46 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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