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Explorers View 'Lost City' Ruins Under Caribbean
Reuters ^ | December 6, 2001 | Andrew Cawthorne

Posted on 12/06/2001 9:37:13 PM PST by spycatcher

HAVANA (Reuters) - Explorers using a miniature submarine to probe the sea floor off the coast of Cuba said on Thursday they had confirmed the discovery of stone structures deep below the ocean surface that may have been built by an unknown human civilization thousands of years ago.

Researchers with a Canadian exploration company said they filmed over the summer ruins of a possible submerged ``lost city'' off the Guanahacabibes Peninsula on the Caribbean island's western tip. The researchers cautioned that they did not fully understand the nature of their find and planned to return in January for further analysis, the expedition leader said on Thursday.

The explorers said they believed the mysterious structures, discovered at the astounding depth of around 2,100 feet and laid out like an urban area, could have been built at least 6,000 years ago. That would be about 1,500 years earlier than the great Giza pyramids of Egypt.

``It's a really wonderful structure which looks like it could have been a large urban center,'' said Soviet-born Canadian ocean engineer Paulina Zelitsky, from British Columbia-based Advanced Digital Communications (ADC). ``However, it would be totally irresponsible to say what it was before we have evidence,'' Zelitsky told Reuters.

Zelitsky said the structures may have been built by unknown people when the current sea-floor actually was above the surface. She said volcanic activity may explain how the site ended up at great depths below the Caribbean Sea.

In July 2000, ADC researchers using sophisticated side-scan sonar equipment identified a large underwater plateau with clear images of symmetrically organized stone structures that looked like an urban development partly covered by sand. From above, the shapes resembled pyramids, roads and buildings, they said.

``ULISES'' ASSISTS UNDERWATER ODYSSEY

This past July, ADC researchers, along with the firm's Cuban partner and experts from the Cuban Academy of Sciences, returned to the site in their ship ``Ulises.'' They said they sent a miniature, unmanned submarine called a Remotely Operated Vehicle (ROV) down to film parts of the 7.7-square-mile area.

Those images confirmed the presence of huge, smooth, cut granite-like blocks in perpendicular and circular formations, some in pyramid shapes, the researchers said. Most of the blocks, measuring between about 6.5 and 16 feet in length, were exposed, some stacked one on another, the researchers said. Others were covered in sediment and the fine, white sand that characterizes the area, the researchers said.

The intriguing discovery provided evidence that Cuba at one time was joined to mainland Latin America via a strip of land from the Yucatan Peninsula, the researchers said.

``There are many new hypotheses about land movement and colonialization, and what we are seeing here should provide very interesting new information,'' Zelitsky said.

ADC's deep-water equipment includes a satellite-integrated ocean bottom positioning system, high-precision side-scan double-frequency sonar, and the ROV. The company currently is commissioning what it calls the world's first custom-designed ocean excavator for marine archeology to begin work both at the Guanahacabibes site and at ship wrecks.

ADC is the deepest operator among four foreign firms working in joint venture with President Fidel Castro (news - web sites)'s government to explore Cuban waters containing hundreds of treasure-laden ships from the colonial era. The Canadian company already has discovered several historic sunken Spanish ships.

In an earlier high-profile find, ADC was testing equipment in late 2000 off Havana Bay when it spotted the century-old wreck of the American battleship USS Maine. The ship had not been located since it blew up mysteriously in 1898, killing 260 American sailors and igniting the Spanish-American War.

The rush of interest in Cuba's seas in recent years is due in part to the Castro government's recognition that it does not have the money or technology to carry out systematic exploration by itself, although it does have excellent divers.

American companies are prohibited from operating in Cuba by the long-running U.S. embargo on the Communist-run island.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; Cuba; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: atlantis; canada; caribbean; catastrophism; cuba; godsgravesglyphs; history; noteworthy; paulinazelitsky; paulinazelitzky; plato; russia; russianreliability; sunkencivilizations
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To: D2BAH
My son-in-law is a Christian fundamentalist and says the world has only been here for 5000 years max

Someone went through an awful lot of trouble to make it appear otherwise.

61 posted on 12/07/2001 6:30:21 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Carry_Okie
"There is evidence of a global drug trade extending back at least as far as the pre-Mosaic dynasties of Egypt."

Some of the oldest mummies of Egypt contain traces of cocaine and nicotine, a drug of the America's.

62 posted on 12/07/2001 6:32:43 AM PST by blam
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Bump for later
63 posted on 12/07/2001 6:36:00 AM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon
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To: The_Expatriate
Lost city? How careless can one get? I mean, to misplace an entire city for centuries...
Can we possibly lose Berkley or Ichita?
64 posted on 12/07/2001 6:38:57 AM PST by Moleman
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To: lavrenti
Cthulhu rising?
65 posted on 12/07/2001 6:39:23 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: D2BAH
Does your son-in-law wear his tin foil hat to bed ?????
66 posted on 12/07/2001 6:45:59 AM PST by clamper1797
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To: ravingnutter
"It's bookmarked on my profile page. Sorry, don't know how to link.

Here you go:

Your link

Thanks, that's the old article. There is a newer one bookmarked there also.

67 posted on 12/07/2001 6:52:04 AM PST by blam
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To: CalConservative
Seems to coincide well with the age of the Flood. More evidence!

Evolution is part and parcel of a larger general theory called uniformitarianism, the major tenet of which is that changes in biological and geological forms take place slowly and imperceptibly over immense time spans. There's no way to square that conception with such a finding as we're talking about here.

As far as the flood goes, man has always lived near water and you'd figure the continental shelves are basically just the pre-flood shorelines, and you'd EXPECT most of the ruins of pre-flood civilizations to lie beneath the waves.

In other words, to the evolutionists' question "Where did the flood waters go?", the basic answer is NOWHERE; they're still here. There's just more water now than there used to be.

68 posted on 12/07/2001 6:52:56 AM PST by medved
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
I believe you'd be interested in Exodus To Arthur, by dendrochronologist Mike Baillie.
69 posted on 12/07/2001 6:53:44 AM PST by blam
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To: Thornwell Simons
They have found that the mummies of Egypt contain high amounts of Nicotene and Coca. The best way explain that is that the was trade between the East and the West long before Columbus.
70 posted on 12/07/2001 6:55:10 AM PST by thepainster
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To: medved
"There's just more water now than there used to be."

Nah. It's just not locked up in the poles as ice any more.

71 posted on 12/07/2001 6:57:21 AM PST by blam
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To: ravingnutter
Here's the url for the newer article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/575720/posts

72 posted on 12/07/2001 6:59:48 AM PST by blam
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To: The_Expatriate
Maybe they lost their lease.

We've lost our lease! Everything marked way down below sea level!

Just a guess.

73 posted on 12/07/2001 7:00:29 AM PST by openotherend
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To: Traction
Thanks. I was just going to mention that. I had seen the pictures of the Maine after they brought her back up. Another item is that Teddy Roosevelt carried a revolver up San Juan Hill that was salvaged from the Maine. I think it was a .38 and the makers of the Movie "Roughriders" knew that fact and ignored it by using a Single Action Colt.
74 posted on 12/07/2001 7:02:28 AM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: spycatcher
An ancient flood was considered a mythological story as well until recently when hard evidence was found of cities under the Black Sea.

They haven't recovered definitive evidence of habitation on the shore of the freshwater lake that existed in the Black Sea basin before the inundation broke through the Bosporus. Bob Ballard brought up some material that was fashioned by humans, but it was modern contamination (i.e. something that sunk to the point where it was found). However, the show that I say (National Geographic Explorer) indicated that the soil provided evidence of human habitation at the time of the inundation, but I haven't heard anything about that from any other source.

75 posted on 12/07/2001 7:05:53 AM PST by cogitator
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To: CalConservative
Evidence of what?
76 posted on 12/07/2001 7:06:45 AM PST by mvscal
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Comment #77 Removed by Moderator

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78 posted on 12/07/2001 7:19:34 AM PST by Darth Reagan
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To: Mossy Thunder
The Grand Canyon would have only taken a few years. Where did you do your graduate work in geology?
79 posted on 12/07/2001 7:20:23 AM PST by mvscal
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To: spycatcher
BUMP
80 posted on 12/07/2001 7:22:52 AM PST by Aurelius
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