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Quadrant magazine, letter to the editor | December 2001 | Greg Deane

[Byron_the_Aussie]

FYI.

Prompted to post this article after reading 'Islam studies required in California district.'

[Byron_the_Aussie]

Bump.

In the interests of balance.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

A little history lesson to go with the schoolkids' 'Islamic Studies.'

[Calico Cat]

Wonderful. Thank you, Byron, for posting this. What the writer understands, and expresses very well, is the belief that some cultures have values that are incompatible with Western democracy, and that an onslaught of immigration from these countries is undesirable. I don't see why champions of 'diversity' have such a difficult time understanding this; they have an unflappable faith in the goodness or perfectability of mankind. But, as any rationalist will tell you, it just ain't so. Or, as Hemingway said so wearily and exasperatedly, "Wouldn't it be lovely to THINK so?"

[Byron_the_Aussie]

Heads up, for some thought-provoking reading.

[bluester]

"So let them sail back to their deserts and their mosques and their camels and their tents-and terrify each other. "

Intolerance, racism, ignorance and prejudice at it's finest. What else can I say.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...by "civilised" I mean those nations where rule of law prevails in a spirit of tolerance for difference....

[Byron_the_Aussie]

Bump.

With a belated 'thank you' to Mrs Byron, for retyping this from the magazine, for posting.

[Kozak]

He left out the invasion of the Iberian peninsula in the 8th century, which was only turned back by Charles (The Hammer) Martell at Tours in France, preventing the conquest of all of Christian Europe. Also missing is the fact that the Ottomans threatened Europe right up to the 17th century, only being finally defeated before Vienna by Jan Sobieski on September 12 1683.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...I don't see why champions of 'diversity' have such a difficult time understanding this; they have an unflappable faith in the goodness or perfectability of mankind...

I wish I could your share your confidence in the good will of their motives, Cat.

My view is, not all cultures have the same value. Some are better than others. PC and lib acquaintances are shocked when I say that, but then I ask, 'do you value, say, the north African culture, more than our own? Great. Considering having your daughter circumcised?'

[Byron_the_Aussie]

..intolerance, racism, ignorance and prejudice at it's finest. What else can I say....

You could say, 'Byron, sorry I trolled through the whole piece in a search for one sentence to hang some PC fingerpointing on. My ability to actually digest and reflect on deeper articles is limited, because I went to a state school in California. Hope you understand.'

[Byron_the_Aussie]

FYI.

[jjbrouwer]

With a belated 'thank you' to Mrs Byron, for retyping this from the magazine, for posting.

The Muslims treat their wives like this too.

[leadpenny]

I think Calico Cat was agreeing with the article and you.

LOL at your reply in #12.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

Bump.

Yes there are things from other cultures I admire, and would even like to adopt into our own. The Japanese respect for their elders, for instance.

And then there are other cultures where I find little to admire.

[dennisw]

Bump...... for great justice of course!

[bluester]

Ehm Byron, I do have a problem with the whole article.

[onyx]

Greg Deane has it right. I hope his letter was read throughout Australia, and thanks for posting it here!

[Byron_the_Aussie]

..I think Calico Cat was agreeing with the article and you...

I thought so too? Sorry to Cat, if my reply gave another impression. I'm a bit wound up, if the truth be told; exasperated, with constantly reading and hearing that our shared values and history are racist, homohobic, genocidal etc. This latest insanity, with Californian kids dressing up as Muslims...if our society's so riven by racism, intolerance, 'gender inequality' and all the rest, how come so many people want to immigrate to Australia and the US?