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1 posted on 04/17/2002 5:56:30 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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Little old ladies in wheelchairs wielding AK47's. It's a frightening thought. No wonder the government is running scared.
2 posted on 04/17/2002 6:01:52 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: *Bang_list;*Social Security
index bump
3 posted on 04/17/2002 6:02:37 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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One thing that Claire Wolfe misses: if women leave the workforce in large numbers to take care of aged parents, there will actually be a labor SHORTAGE, even with an economic downturn, and we'll be on the road to recovery pretty quickly as formerly "unemployable" men are suddenly employable.
4 posted on 04/17/2002 6:03:39 PM PDT by Poohbah
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Damn that's long and no I didn't read it all.

My answer to the lead question is No. The dorks in D.C. all think THEY can bandaid Soc Sec until they get their retirement and leave the mess to the next shift. With as little effort as possible, including NOT going against NRA.

That's what they all have been doing, and getting away with, since Soc Sec started.

IMHO

Tim

5 posted on 04/17/2002 6:05:41 PM PDT by AzJP
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...or, when social security collapses, offspring will return to taking care of their aged parents, as was done in the previous 6000 years.
9 posted on 04/17/2002 6:12:02 PM PDT by aimhigh
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Oh man, just six more years and I can start sucking off of the government!

Oh please let it last at least 10 more years.

By then I'll have gotten out all I paid in and be living on the baby boomers.

In the mean time, I'll buy more guns from private citizens, and BLOAT, BLOAT, BLOAT!

10 posted on 04/17/2002 6:12:49 PM PDT by tet68
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; AntiTyrant; Bang_List; Congressman Billybob; Dan from Michigan; Dave Dilegge...
Bookmarked and BUMPS
12 posted on 04/17/2002 6:13:34 PM PDT by RFP
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Now I'm REALLY depressed.

Heading out back with shovel and uh....some stuff.

15 posted on 04/17/2002 6:33:08 PM PDT by Chuckster
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The old " let's blame the NRA because they don't do enough" argument. It's getting really old. So where are these other gun groups that are supposed to be so much better? Why don't they step in and save us? Oh, that's right. 75 million gun owners can't take the time to vote but someone expects them to lead a civil war.
16 posted on 04/17/2002 6:33:29 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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For years I've had this fantasy about myself, one of these power-jackals, a secluded place and Wonder Woman's magic lasso that forces the god-honest truth out of the lips of anyone it encircles. What, pray tell, would I get in a pleasant evening of (for once) total intellectual honesty if I asked one so bound "Well now, Bill/Hillary/Kofi/Jean/Sarah/Tom(name your "favourite" scalawag), what is the REAL reason you want nobody but your high poobahs and their uniformed goons to have the bang-bangs?"

It's just a fantasy though, honestly....

18 posted on 04/17/2002 6:48:06 PM PDT by coydog
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bookmarked for continuous review...

(((sigh)))

Claire is a real woman- smart, elegant, sharp as a razor-blade... WOW.

And, considering what I've learned with my current studies (advanced macroeconomic theory), right on track...

Too bad. Keep your powder dry, your weapon in a ziplock (and hidden from prying eyes), and wait to see what happens.

FReegards,

19 posted on 04/17/2002 6:59:20 PM PDT by Capitalist Eric
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I really get a kick out of reading this futurist anarchy stuff but it just don't pass the sniff test. A few other things to consider:

1. There are a lot more of us than them. Only about 10% of the U.S. population has government jobs complete with retirements, job security, and the rest of the governemt gravy train.

2. Many if not the majority of living Americans are whores to a standard of living and this is where the government gets most of its current authority from. Take away that standard of living and the government will lose authority to enforce virtually anything.

3. The government can only enforce a tiny fraction of the laws we now have on the books. We are a nation of drug users, illegal aliens, tax cheaters, terrorists, and the government can only afford to make examples out a few of them at best.

4. The culture of America is genetically imprinted with disdain for tyrants and it doesn't take too much to make the crazier ones burn a city to the ground or take down a government building with explosives.

5. The U.S. is a nation of great resources and a government that squanders or loots them will fall and be replaced by vote or revolution in a matter of a few short years.

6. Authorian responses to civil unrest in the U.S. usually backfire and esclate the unrest until the yellow cowards of Washington DC back down and try to appease the mob with more goodies.

Remember FDR was a great man, NOT !

22 posted on 04/17/2002 7:43:09 PM PDT by SSN558
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Did you find this at www.awrm.org by any chance?
25 posted on 04/17/2002 7:45:46 PM PDT by illbenice
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Bump for follow up. Now my brain hurts. :-)
26 posted on 04/17/2002 10:41:23 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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I've said it before:

Pick one:

_ Euthanasia
_ Labor camps for your children
_ Privatizing Social Security

Millions of my generation, and now this generation, had our heads crushed and bodies vacuumed apart because we were determined to be unworthy of life / too expensive / an inconvenience. When baby boomers hit the age where they're too expensive and inconvenient to care for, they'll be offed. Deny tests and treatments. Slow codes become the norm. Government-subsidized "voluntary" euthanasia. Unless my generation has a general strike shortly, and assuming that we won't be forced into labor camps, the Greedy Generation is going to get one hell of a payback, lying in their warehouse beds, soaked in their own urine and feces, dying of decubitus ulcers and malnutrition. You reap what you sow.

27 posted on 04/18/2002 12:09:56 AM PDT by toenail
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I guess the real question you have to ask when one sees a "scare" article heavily reference EO's is one of jurisdiction. Just who is an EO written to? Most are used to set or reset policy within the Executive branch, manage how a President delegates his authority, or to continue the day to day operations of the government in his absence, or in times of a national emergency, and not directives that dictatorially impose "command and control" directly over the general populous.

Take EO 12919 for instance, the writer claims that it "gives the president authority to seize and allocate everything from construction materials to your shoes", which is an obvious exaggeration(go read it, read the others too).

Other than that it's a good read, and reinforces why we must be ever vigilant, of what the MOB(many orthodic beast) conspires to do.

As for SSI, I doubt that FDR ever imagined that his ponzi scheme would last this long.

28 posted on 04/18/2002 12:31:07 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to tell the government, enough is enough. as in 9-11, when the shiite hits the fan, and the government seems unable to maintain control over the people, the people will turn to their guns... and it won't be as chaotic as everyone will think. the right minded will form a government truly of the people then.
33 posted on 04/18/2002 6:16:21 AM PDT by teeman8r
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Tell ya WHat Congress Critters... me and the wife talked it over and you can have all of the money we paid into "Social Rathole" and keep it as long as we or any of my children (or their decendants) do not have to pay into ever again... In other words we want to quit your wonderful (hah) program and will take care of it ourselves.
44 posted on 04/18/2002 9:09:45 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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BUMP to read later [got yard work to do now :^( ]
48 posted on 04/20/2002 2:39:15 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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I saw an ad" on TV this afternoon that went like this:
The scene is a young woman sitting alone in her home watching television. You can hear the voice emanating from the TV set giving the news concerning a woman who was killed by burglars. At that time you hear the sound of breaking glass coming from somewhere in the house.
The woman grabs the phone and attempts to dial; Alas the phone is dead.
A figure wearing a full face covering is coming in her back door and from over his shoulder you see the woman standing pointing a weapon at the intruder.
Ad' continues with, "This is a story you won't see on your TV....Over two million crimes per year are prevented by gun owners.

It wasn't from the NRA either.

52 posted on 04/20/2002 3:14:32 PM PDT by scouse
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