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Vanity: The Pledge of Allegiance is Unconstitutional - If That Doesn't Convince You What Will?
June 26, 2002 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/26/2002 11:48:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

This is your wake-up call

My friends, I've been taking a lot of flak lately because of my stand on President Bush and the Republicans. Well, my thinking is that the coming elections are so critical that the very continuation of America as we know it may be at stake.

All of our institutions are controlled by liberals. Both houses of Congress are awash in liberals and socialists and moderates and very few conservatives. The Courts are infested with liberal activist judges. Our media and entertainment industries are overrun by liberals. Our universities are overrun by liberals. Our public education systems are overrun by liberals. The liberals control public opinion through their controlled nightly news programs and their daily liberal newspapers. My God, the whole damn country is run by hordes of mushy headed liberals and socialists in biblical proportions! And now they even have the audacity to openly attack patriotism and even God Almighty Himself!

A United States Federal Appeals Court in California has declared the

Pledge of Allegiance to be unconstitutional! And this simply because it contains the phrase, "Under God." I'm speechless! I just sit here and shake my head. Don't even know what to say.

Wake up America! We've been saying that for years. The far right-wingers have been shouting it for decades. Wake up America! Wake up America, the socialists are coming!

And now it's here. The Republic is in grave danger. The liberal activist judiciary has tested the waters. If America does not wake up and not only say no, but hell no to this abomination, then what will the emboldened court take next? Well, I don't know about you, but I'm not gonna sit around on my butt doing nothing while we find out.

Call to action: Get off your Butts! Call or write your reps! Voice your opinion. Demand that they do something about this. Tell them that America will not allow this outrage to stand! Demand of your Senators that they move President Bush's judiciary appointments through the Senate! The Democrat controlled Senate is holding up his appointments, hoping to delay as many as they possibly can until Bush appoints judges more to their liking, or possibly even until they can get Gore or Hillary elected in 2004. God forbid!

And, I'm convinced more than ever, that we must have a complete turnover of the judiciary in the next decade. This is critical. The liberal activist judiciary is getting more and more aggressive. If we do not get some conservative judges in there pretty soon, this game is going to be over.

How do we get conservative judges? Well, I can guarantee you that we will not get them as long as the Senate is controlled by Democrats. We must have a Republican President to appoint conservative judges and we must have a Republican majority so they will be moved through the Senate. This is one of the primary reasons why I want to push so hard to help elect Republicans to the Congress and especially to the Senate. And this is why I want to push so hard to help re-elect President Bush in 2004.

Wake up America! And wake up right-wingers! Vote out the Democrats. Vote in a huge Republican majority so we can retake America from the liberals!

We cannot afford a loss or even a squeaker in the next couple of elections. We must have Reaganesque landslides! Send them to Washington with a mandate from the American people! We want a complete turnover and makeover of the judiciary and all of the government. Give is back our Liberty!

This is not the time for sending a negative message. It does us no good for conservatives to sit on their hands or to vote third party. The only message that sends is to say you don't care if we have wall-to-wall liberals forever. The Democrats will love you. The liberal activist judiciary will love you.

The message you should send is one by pen and ink, or by phone calls and personal meetings. Send a message now to your congressmen and to the Republican Party. Now is the time to send the message. Tell them what we want them to run on and what we want them to do when they get in there. Send them a positive message filled with patriotism and love for God and Country. Tell them that we are fed up with the liberals and we want our country back and we want our rights back. Tell your relatives and your friends and neighbors. Tell them to write and call and visit. And tell them to vote for the Republican in their districts. We must do this if we want it back. We cannot afford to fail.

God bless you all and thank you for bearing with me. I love my country and I love my freedom more than life itself. I don't care what anyone says about me, or what labels they pin on me. From this day forward I am a Bush-bot and proud of it! I am going to help turn this thing around or I'm going down in flames trying.


Jim Robinson

TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: god; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; pledge; unconstitutional
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To: Sandy
Actually, this is a just need to check the package...the judge who wrote the opinion may have been appointed by Nixon, but he's also a Senior that as RETIRED! - He was on the bench for this case becasue of vacancies on the court - and who's responsible for that? DASCHLE. And Leaky Leahey. That point needs to be made, and loudly.
61 posted on 06/27/2002 12:45:41 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa
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To: BillyBoy
The truth is Ron Paul is changing the system from within. That is what we should be doing, imo.
62 posted on 06/27/2002 12:46:01 AM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Jim Robinson
Right On Jim!
63 posted on 06/27/2002 12:46:23 AM PDT by swheats
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To: Texasforever
How so?? Nothing in this ruling prevents anybody from practicing any religion, it just says you can't use Government power and money to make children recite a Pledge that includes an assertion that one monotheistic religion has primacy over all other belief systems. While I understand that the majority of folks here are Christian,(and I have my Nomex BVDs on) not everybody is. A single public school class may well have adherents of Islam, Buddism, Native Americans, Hindus and Athiests, as well as Christians, in it. There is no legal justification, or practical reason, to force those kids to recite The Pledge as modified in 1954. Simply dropping the two words added by Congress would still allow patriotism and respect for the Flag, and what it stands for, to be instilled in kids without offending anyone's religious sensibilities.

If the Constitution doesn't protect all of us it doesn't protect any of us.

64 posted on 06/27/2002 12:47:49 AM PDT by UncleJeff
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To: Sandy
The judiciary is liberal and this is an act of a liberal activist judge regardless of who appointed him. The point stands. We must have a complete turnover of the judiciary and this will not happen if the Democrats are in control. It will only get worse.
65 posted on 06/27/2002 12:49:29 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Sandy
It doesn't matter who wrote the opinion. The soundbite repercussions will make this a R issue if they play it right. The fact that the one judge was pulled out of retirement because of the D failure to appoint judges makes this a win in the R column. If they play it right.

As far as demagoguery, that'll happen later, as it always does.

66 posted on 06/27/2002 12:49:58 AM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: Texasforever
Then what?

I don't think he thought that far ahead ..

67 posted on 06/27/2002 12:50:24 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Texasforever
who CARES if they say it's unconstitutional? We know differently, just like we know that the pledge is not unconstitutional. Just because they say it doesn't make it so. If they banned Christianity outright tomorrow I wouldn't stop being one. I will not give up my faith, my Bible, my guns, the way I raise my kids, NONE OF IT.

68 posted on 06/27/2002 12:51:04 AM PDT by goodieD
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To: Keith in Iowa
he's also a Senior that as RETIRED! - He was on the bench for this case becasue of vacancies on the court

Ah hah. Now that's an excellent point if true. You sure about that?

69 posted on 06/27/2002 12:52:03 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: UncleJeff
Nothing in previous law REQUIRED any child to say the pledge. YOU however are not satisfied with that. YOU want to take a voluntary pledge to a mandated prohibition based on a devout Atheistís religious beliefs. That is an establishment of state religion. That is a direct violation of the Constitution.

70 posted on 06/27/2002 12:52:31 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: libertyman
see my posts 43 and 62 please. I know McCain doesn't live in TX. ;)
71 posted on 06/27/2002 12:53:07 AM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Jim Robinson

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72 posted on 06/27/2002 12:53:23 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Texasforever
I should have known. Do you just want to argue that losing on principle is better than winning on compromise? If so then you are perfectly happy with more and more of these decisions.

Some can not see that both parties have created this. Some still refuse to admit it. Was not one of these judges a NIXON appointee? Get fired up people fine but don't be blindsidded and let yet more of this type judicary in the door through compromise. Push the GOP? Fine but at least have the GUTS to hold their feet to the fire and demand conservative issues be addressed and not shelved for yet another hollow victory with no substance. It's not the party it's the lack of constitutional accountability on the part of both parties that gave us todays problem. It will not go away by trying to put to put the fire out with gasoline.

Don't try to defeat the DEM's with RINO's it won't work it can't work and we have seen what happens as a result. In less than two short years the GOP lost it's ability to lead this nation. It's the ideals that matter. Policy over politics. Change and I mean drastic change in the direction of the GOP must come soon and fast. You want leaders to abide by the constitution? Then demand it of them!!! It's that simple tell them either abide by it or be replaced AND MEAN IT.

Make elected once again fear the voters wrath at the polls and not take it for granted that they will have a job next election cycle just because of a party ID. That alone short of devine intervention is the only way to reverse this. It has to happen or this is just spitting in the wind. If change in direction doesn't come then putting 10,000 more RINO's & Liberals sitting in both chambers will not solve matters either.

If a politican in any party is wrong on a matter then scream it so, demand change, and most important don't defend it. Do not tolorate it from either side of the isle. Tolorance and compromises with the enemy {Liberals} has been a losing proposition. It's time to stop. It has to stop. The GOP must understand this has to stop.

73 posted on 06/27/2002 12:54:15 AM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: LarryLied
If Democrats take the House, Henry Waxman will chair the Committee on Government Reform.
Reason #2: Charles Rangel would chair Ways and Means which is in charge of the following:

Geez .. thanks for the nightmares I'll have tonight

74 posted on 06/27/2002 12:54:50 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: goodieD
who CARES if they say it's unconstitutional?

While I agree with you NEVER underestimate the forces working aagainst us.

75 posted on 06/27/2002 12:55:20 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Jim Robinson
It's already too late. I know that may seem defeatist. But I think it's more realist. If all we have to defend the principles that made this country great are the likes of Bush, Cheney, Lott and the current Republican leadership we are in it up to our earlobes.

Today's Republican leadership doesn't have the stomach to do what it will take to keep the country strong. They're too busy arguing with the same faulty premises that Democrats are. A lite-socialism. Seemingly impotent the lot of them--can you say political viagra.

Because our current Republican leaders constantly and consistently fail to stand on principle we now have a situation where the guy that offer's the biggest gov't check wins the day...period. And this beast's increasing appetite grows by what it feeds on.

The funny thing is: the harder it gets for the average Joe to feed his family, pay for healthcare, etc., (a direct result of huge gov't and tax-greed) the easier it will be for the left to bait him with an "easy" solution--effectively a socialist "panacea".

We've gone so far down that road already that I fear nothing will be done. Not that something can't be done--it simply won't be done.

Today's "right-wing" leader is merely a lesser Democrat: the farm bill, steel, education, gov't growth, social security, campaign finance, immigration, the "patriot" act,etc.

It's easy to be a democrat. Your focus is to steal wealth, attack the producers, feed on the host--certainly not to create anything. Hell, why create when all the work is being done for you? It's criminal to rob your neighbor. So hire a democrat to do the job for you.

It's much more difficult to be the host. Especially when you're ridden with guilt: white guilt, success guilt, wealthy guilt, talent guilt, etc.. When the host is sick on his own its easy for parasites to cling.

76 posted on 06/27/2002 12:56:00 AM PDT by Boucheau
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To: Texasforever
I don't think it's either/or. It's both/and. Home schooling may be the only way to produce a generation which will rise up and call today's liberal nonsense damned, while in the meantime we bail as hard as possible to try to keep it from getting any further.
77 posted on 06/27/2002 12:56:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: UncleJeff
Re your post #64 - There is no legal justification, or practical reason, to force those kids to recite The Pledge

In FL, any student who does not want to say it does not have to recite it, but, I believe the [silent] student must also stand up. Frankly, that makes it easier on the teacher, since everyone has to stand, those who want to say the pledge say it, and that's it. I don't think it's depriving anyone of any rights. This past year the FL Legislature got on the case of the FL press reporters for not standing during the Pledge of Allegiance. If someone hates this country so much that they can not show respect for our nation's flag by standing up for it, then, move out of the country already. Other citizens are sacrificing their lives to protect us and this nation.
78 posted on 06/27/2002 12:56:45 AM PDT by summer
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To: Jim Robinson
I think most here will vote Republican in the next Senate and Rep elections. I think the only question will be Bush himself. Tho we'll probably end up voting for him too, it disturbs me that he would take it as a mandate to keep signing BAD laws and spend money faster than a Democrat. Isn't anyone concerned about the freedoms that are being infringed by the new terror legislations? Him I trust, but what would another Bill/Hill/Reno combo do with those new freedoms? THAT's the question.
79 posted on 06/27/2002 12:57:17 AM PDT by brat
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To: Boucheau
It's never too late.
80 posted on 06/27/2002 12:57:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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