Posted on 08/07/2002 6:24:01 AM PDT by jalisco555
The Sig is my handgun of choice, have worked with the P-220 extensively. In my experience its possible to learn transition from the first DA shot to SA and place all rounds very tight at realistic rapid gunfight ranges (seven to twenty-five yards IMO.)
If one gets shot in the arm it is difficult to rack the slide. It has been done using the holsters and in one case that I read about with the upper front teeth. Caused tooth damage but a dentist performed the repairs not a mortician.
Stay safe; stay armed.
Artillery brings dignity to an otherwise vulgar brawl.
I had something happen to me with my Sig though, a few other guys had it happen also.
We were shooting on the range and practicing speed re-loads. I emptied one mag, inserted another mag and slapped it in the magazine well pretty hard. Apparently the extractor somehow hit the side of the first round and pierced it, causing the round to go off. The round partially ejected and was stuck on the extractor. Fragments of the casing hit me in the face but I wasn't injured.
I don't know if Sig has had any similar complaints but it happened to a few of us. Not long afterward we turned in the Sigs for the Glocks.
The range officer didn't know what caused it to happen, and I don't either, never did find out. I guess just a slam fire. Unusual that the casing blew up though.
Maybe someone with more experience knows what happened.
One of our guys had an interesting experience last week. Guys on the shift arrested a woman for robbery. She had a piece of junk .380. The officer took the mag out and operated the slide a few times to see if there was a round in the chamber. After he racked it a few times and let it go he had a slam fire and the weapon discharged. Apparently the extractor was faulty.
He goofed by not looking into the chamber.
The round went into the carpet. When he went out to the range the next week the range officer had carpet on his target. We're teasing him no end.
10-4 on the unloaded gun. There are several other techniques I learned for racking the slide one-handed via Gunsite. Their courses are excellent IMHO.
My next Sig will probably be a 220 (or a 239 in 357 Sig).
What model Sig and what ammo was it, if I can ask?
I agree with that. That's an ND waiting to happen. Glocks and Kahrs REQUIRE a quality holster than covers the trigger guard.
Off topic - the Drew Carey episode that's on right now on ABC has Oswald and Lewis as airport security screeners! ROFLOL! "Hey, at least we did find a polyp on that last guy"
The Glock will not fire unless you pull the trigger.
Adding various safeties will not completely overcome the problem of idiots who pull the trigger when they should not.
It is amazing how many cops forget that to unload a semi-auto you have to remove the magazine AND clear the chamber (take the bullet out of the barrel).
Maybe cops should be issued revolvers only.
Sig P226? It was the 9mm and I think we were firing Federal ammo. We've gone through so many different brands of ammo. I think it was the Federal hydro shoks.
There was a shooting in a city nearby here on a barricaded suspect. SWAT eventually went in and got into a shootout with the guy. Afterward during the investigation they counted all the holes from the rounds. There was a pretty good number of holes. What they found was the jackets were peeling off the (if I remember right) hydro shoks after they would hit something. (I know that doesnt have anything to do with what I experienced, just thought I'd throw it in for conversation)
Of course not, it just seems more than average.
If a civillian or a military man claims it was an 'accident', I am a little suspicious as to whether it really was a negligent discharge, or intentional.
If it was law enforcement I am more apt to say, "There but for the sake of 'DOH!' go I.
I know about lax, I've been handling guns since I was 16, and shamefacedly have to admit that in a moment of complete stupidity blew up my locker in the police basement.
I haven't lived that one down. And you ought to hear them hoot if I miss something, no matter what I'm shooting at, or what I'm shooting because I'm one of the snipers on the SWAT team.
I cranked off two at a moving pit bull a few weeks ago and missed. There still talking about that. A brother just can't get a break LOL.
Nowhere in the NRA Pistol syllabus is there any reference to anything close to Jeff Cooper rules.
I doubt that you are a NRA Certified Pistol Instructor.
If you were, you would know there is no longer any reference to any rules close to Jeff Cooper's rules.
The NRA used rules much like his rules 25 years ago,
however based on much statistical data on Safety, the rules have evolved to what they are today.
Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.
Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.
If you need information about safety in shooting, please check with your Training Counselor who trained you
or contact the NRA Training site in Virginia.
I don't believe Jeff Cooper is the business of Gun Safety.
I do know that the NRA is in the business of Gun Safety and Marksmanship and have been for 130 years.
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