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Cynthia Tucker on Augusta National (prepare to scream in technicolor)
AJC ^ | 9/14/02 | Cynthia Tucker

Posted on 09/14/2002 8:36:19 AM PDT by groanup

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To: Bob J
Now you're shifting your ground.

You originally said, "The fact that quality women have applied and never been accepted, and, that no woman has ever had an invitiation extended, speaks for itself."

You have NO way of knowing who has been considered for membership, unless you are on the board. The club has never "made it plain that they consider themselves to be a men-only club." They have made it plain that their membership is their own business, and they will not be blackmailed, threatened, or browbeaten into admitting anyone. (And three cheers for them!)

For all we know, the committee was considering a lady with the proper qualifications. (My guess for the first candidate would be the widow of a very popular member. That's the usual way to open a previously all-male club to women. They may create a special "widow of member" category as an interim, but that too will pass.) Assuming this paragon of ladies exists, she is (as she would have to be) a discreet and traditional lady, and I'm sure the committee has asked her to "lay low", like Br'er Fox, until this all blows over. And, being a lady, she has responded, "Of course." Cursing Burke under her breath.

41 posted on 09/14/2002 12:54:17 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Isn't that pretty! Like a Southern version of a Moreland.

Thanks!

42 posted on 09/14/2002 12:59:10 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: AnAmericanMother
"...in his world it was the duty of a gentleman to honor a lady and make her happy - always within the bounds of truth and courtesy."

You come from an admirable pedigree.

43 posted on 09/14/2002 2:09:30 PM PDT by groanup
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To: Bob J
You're note on legality implied I may have questioned it.

You are mistaken. I have no qualms about being explicit; no need for me to imply anything.

BTW - I don't agree that it is contemporary.

Hootie Johnson, Augusta National and the vast majority of America disagrees with your opinion. You have one vote, everyone else has one vote and on this issue you are in the distinct minority.

44 posted on 09/14/2002 3:29:36 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Bob J
If the members of Augusta believe golf is only for men, so be it, but I believe it to be throwback to the good old boys mentality.

When have you ever heard anyone say that the members of Augusta National believe golf is only for men? You're typical of feminists. Make it up as you go along. Forget the facts. They're not important. Perhaps you've missed the dozens of posts telling people of your ilk that women play plenty of golf at Augusta. They just aren't members.

45 posted on 09/14/2002 3:30:27 PM PDT by Glenn
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To: groanup
He was a very fine gentleman, and a credit to the family. A bit stern until you got to know him (that Scots Presbyterian thing), but with a true heart of gold. And he adored my grandmother all his life (they were childhood sweethearts), cherished my mom, and would have done anything for his grandchildren. We were very, very lucky to have him.
46 posted on 09/14/2002 3:44:23 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: Bob J
There is no logical reason to exclude woman from a Golf Club.

If I was ever allowed to join a womans spa, they would never let another woman join.

They would want to keep me all to themselves.

Ane that is not fair either.

47 posted on 09/14/2002 4:11:47 PM PDT by biffalobull
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To: AnAmericanMother
"We were very, very lucky to have him."

Just as your children and family are very lucky to have you. I sense a set of values that are rare these days.

48 posted on 09/14/2002 4:17:11 PM PDT by groanup
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To "meyer" Re: your comment to my post on the NAACP addresses cheerleading post 73 of 93: You said, You forgot the (/sarcasm) tag. My comment to "meyer": I wasn't being sarcastic, I meant what I said!!! cheers, cie
49 posted on 09/14/2002 6:31:56 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: biffalobull
If I was ever allowed to join a womans spa, they would never let another woman join.

Just so we get this straight, in terms of membership and gender, you are equating a golf club with a woman's spa?

50 posted on 09/14/2002 10:53:48 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: AnAmericanMother
Which leads to two conclusions. One, women have been considered but always rejected, or two, they have never been considered. Which one do you think is the truth?
51 posted on 09/14/2002 10:56:11 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
I inferred your implication. Lighten up.
52 posted on 09/14/2002 10:56:56 PM PDT by Bob J
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Sometimes I wonder if people actually read posts before responding to them. I stated very explicitly that I had no problem with the legality of Augusta excluding women. It's their club and they can make any rules they dang well please. I only mentioned that I disagreed with the policy, if in fact it does exist, as it appears to.

Can somneone please get past this moot question of legality and explain to me the compelling reason why Augusta should exclude women as members?

53 posted on 09/14/2002 11:01:36 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: Bob J
Don't know.

Neither do you.

Doesn't matter. It's such a small and exclusive club that mere statistical probability could be the reason. There aren't that many women who meet the criteria (wealth AND business/social standing AND an interest in golf AND playing ability). I imagine there are small and exclusive gun clubs that don't have female members either - just because the pool of women who are shooting on a competitive level is relatively small.

54 posted on 09/15/2002 4:38:00 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: Bob J
Follow your own advice and don't make assumptions.
55 posted on 09/15/2002 4:55:16 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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