KY GOVERNOR CLINTONESQUE SCANDAL

WHAS Television ^ | 9/17/2002 | WHAS Television

[RonPaulLives]

How's that whole merger thing going anyway?

Its going. We'll leave it at that. It's a brand-new goverment coming down in January here, all to be determined in November's elections for city council. I have mixed emotions about it all. I am not ashamed to admit that I, unlike most Louisville Republicans I know, voted against merger, mainly out of concern for bigger government with more taxing power. But the fact is, it passed, and now I hope for the best. In a strict numbers-sense way, we definitely will have more "R's" and less "D's" than under the old government. We will just have to wait and see where the November winners lie on the ideology scale.

[bagman]

Let's not forget that in the past fifty or so years, Kentucky has had exactly one Republican governor - Louie B. Nunn, who served in the late 60s.

I can't quite figure it out - the Commonwealth has had at least one Republican senator for as long as I can remember, presently has two, and the Congressional delegation is predominately Republican. Why the good citizenry insists on electing a Demoncrat to the Governor's Mansion is beyond me.

[RonPaulLives]

It's some sort of perverted (like most of Kentucky's politics) Frankfort-v/s-Washington Jeckyl and Hyde thing. Just as we mentioned per the Governor's Mansion, it should be remembered that the State House has ALWAYS been in the hands of the Democrat; it has NEVER HAD ONE DAY under GOP control. And as you may recall, a couple of years ago, the GOP took charge of the State Senate for the first time SINCE THE CIVIL WAR!

My theory is that Kentuckians seem to have a x-number-of-degrees-of-separation thing going with candidates for the State offices; it seems they always know a brother's cousin's uncle, etc, etc. who is a Democratic incumbent in Frankfort, or a Democrat otherwise on the ballot. But yet, when they get to the federal races, they suddenly mature and think to themselves, "oh yeah, THESE races matter." I only wish I knew how to explain to them how important the state races are, especially in matters relating to the local and state economies. I will conceed that most representation in the State Gov't. is very conservative socially, even a significant percentage of the Democrats, once you get out of Derby City.

[mafree]

Yes, politics is very dirty and very ugly in the Bluegrass State.

Sounds kinda exciting to me-- the Dairy State (Wisconsin) is a little dull in comparison.

[ZULU]

I guess if he's a DemocRAT it must be O.K. After all, he supports abortion, right?

[RonPaulLives]

Sounds kinda exciting to me-- the Dairy State (Wisconsin) is a little dull in comparison.

Yeah, I guess its all relatively exciting, depending upon to what you are accustomed. I know very little about politics in your state; I have to plead ignorance. Do the bureacrats in Wisconsin's state government vote the way you would yourself? Have you been voting in Wisconsin very long? From what I do know about the legislative bodies in other states, Kentucky's is very conservative; Hope I am not becoming obnoxiously redundant here, but when you consider that the Dem's have controlled the State House without reprieve since Reconstruction, have held the State Senate approx. 150 of the last 160 years, and have held the Governor's Mansion for approx. 50 of the last 55 years, we are probably the most conservative. The party label doesn't mean too much here. There are plenty of people in this state to the right of Pat Buchanan who are registered Democrats but have never voted that way in a federal race.

P.S. I love your profile page. I cannot see much there with which I disagree.

[mafree]

Do the bureacrats in Wisconsin's state government vote the way you would yourself?

If they did they wouldn't be bureaucrats- they'd find a real job somewhere. Really, I'd vote more conservatively than most of them would most of the time.

Have you been voting in Wisconsin very long?

I've lived in this state 9 years.

P.S. I love your profile page. I cannot see much there with which I disagree.

Thanks.

[L.N. Smithee]

Henry is married to the former Miss America, Heather Rene' French (how, I don't know since he's certainly nothing to look at)...

Remember, power is an aphrodisiac for women. Witness the courtship and court battle of decrepit-looking octogenerian Kirk Kerkorian and Lisa Bonder, the Anna Kournikova of the eighties (all looks, no game).

[stinkypew]

I'm not making this up: Vote-hauling is legal in Kentucky. Candidates can pay people to drive other people to the polls. This unspoken fact dominates elections in Southeastern Kentucky. The Democrats control most of the counties, but the Republicans use it to their advantage as well in some counties. There's a swath of Rebpulican controlled counties from Hyden, home of the hated Tim Couch (Bengals fan here, in thin or thin) to London.

Plus, both of our statewide papers, the Louisville Courier-Journal and the Lexington Herald-Leader, haven't endorsed a Republican since McKinley. The Herald-Leader employs a creature named Joel Pett as its editorial page cartoonist. He made fun of Reagan's alzheimers -- and of course has won a pulitzer. There's money just waiting to be made by any publisher who will start up a conservative statewider paper.

[RonPaulLives]

There's money just waiting to be made by any publisher who will start up a conservative statewider paper.

TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT!

Before the takeoff of the Internet,I can recall a few publications here or there that at least tried to make it in print in this state. Usually, they are journals or bulletins put out by political interest groups, which is not a bad thing. Such was the case when I helped start both the Cardinal Review (U of L College Republicans) and the YR Review (Jefferson County Young Republicans). We will take conservative media any way we can get it. A couple that come to mind in Kentucky in the last decade were The Liberty Standard and Kentucky Christian News . As I recall, neither of them could sustain the costs of putting out statewide papers. One paper that I find interesting at this time is the Peasant's Press , which is distributed by Take Back Kentucky .

[Theodore R.]

But he is a "KY Democrat," which in KY does not mean "LIBERAL," as the Kentuckians tell us. Republicans have not won the governorship since 1967. The last GOP governor was caught up in his own scandals and supported a Democrat plan to include grocery foods and prescription medicines in the state sales tax. Since then KY has said "No Thanks" to GOP gubernatorial nominees. A later Democrat governor (was it Julian Carroll?) got the tax on groceries and prescription drugs repealed. People in KY associate the Republicans with "the rich," when it comes to the governorship. In 1987, the Republican gubernatorial nominee, John Harper, actually ran on a platform of higher taxes and was crushed. KY even has a tax on one's out-of-state investment, paid to the county sheriff.

[RetiredArmy]

Call Klinton. Find out how to worm out of this now. Hurry before the trail cools.

[CreekerFreeper]

Louie Nunn was the last GOP GUV. But, I think you're a little off track. Nunn repealed the tax on food and medicine and instituted the nickel gas tax. Hence, the nickname Nickel Nunn. The reason we haven't had any GOP governor's is the unholy alliance of state contractors being able to contribute to campaigns.

We'd had a GOP GOV in 1999, but that buttplug McConnell cut a deal so he wouldn't have competition this year. Thanks, McFraud.

[CreekerFreeper]

Louie Nunn was the last GOP GUV. But, I think you're a little off track. Nunn repealed the tax on food and medicine and instituted the nickel gas tax. Hence, the nickname Nickel Nunn. The reason we haven't had any GOP governor's is the unholy alliance of state contractors being able to contribute to campaigns.

We'd had a GOP GOV in 1999, but that buttplug McConnell cut a deal so he wouldn't have competition this year. Thanks, McFraud.

[Theodore R.]

Well, I may have the sequence of events confused. I do recall Walter D. Huddleston, who defeated former Governor Nunn for the Senate in 1972 (the same day as the Nixon landslide) used the issue of a tax on food and prescription drugs AGAINST Nunn. Nunn narrowly lost that Senate race. Ironically, on the same night, another "Nunn," Sam Nunn, was elected senator in GA. At any rate, Nunn was discredited, and Kentuckians also vetoed his gubernatorial comeback attempt in 1979. Who is running against McConnell this year? I had forgotten that his seat is up for election.
I would imagine that Henry will be the next governor, as the tradition of Democrat governors in now stronger in KY than it is in AR, LA, MS, and AL.

[CreekerFreeper]

Not Henry, Chandler will be the next Governor.

[CreekerFreeper]

Lois Weinberg. Too liberal, too flaky.

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

Just a few miles down the road from my house.I HOPE THEY DON'T WIND UP IN THE FRONT YARD!

[Frank_2001]

"Something in the water?" No, something in the bank;) a few $$$$$'s does wonders for a guy's appearance LOL

[Erasmus]

Whats the connection (innocent Brit asks) between anything Clintonesque and KY ?

Ans.: Clinton was the K-Y President.