Twenty-three year old man shot dead by police in a marijuana raid

Dayton Daily News ^ | 10/01/02 | Cathy Mong

[Phantom Lord]

Another incident that will make the drug warriors swell with pride.

[Skooz]

Here we go ..................

[coloradan]

Fighting the Drug War one dead pot smokier at a time. But despite the hardships of the fighting trenches, there is at least some time for levity ... with the cops high-fiving one another for their latest kill.

[Huck]

quantities of packaging items used in the distribution of marijuana.

AHA!

Sad story. About 10 years ago that could have been me. Big old house full of hippies coming and going. Used to be you hang out with dogs, you get fleas. Now you might just get killed.

[poet]

And the slime and slimette along with their band of thugs are atill free to make millions. Isn't our injustice system wonderful?

[AppyPappy]

I heard the cops flew Ted Nugent in for a concert after the raid.

Can you prove it isn't true?

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Meanwhile, in a halfway house in Florida, hardened cokehead and recidivist scofflaw Noelle Bush calls for more bon-bons as she paints her nails red, white, and blue.

[coloradan]

The cops are smoking and joking, high-fiving each other.

A little bit of hypocrisy there for you ... while the cops murder someone for being involved with drugs, they themselves flaunt their own addicition, which by the way kills a lot more people each year than pot does - or all illegal drugs combined for that matter.

And the War On (some) Drugs continues.

[Huck]

Lots of thoughts in my head.....wonder if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will show any interest in this case. Oh yeah, hippies are white. Who cares.

[William McKinley]

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[corkoman]

Hey Dane, Curry!! You guys can have a smoke and high-five each other! Isn't it a shame when rascally totalitarians shoot and kill folks? Dang.

[walkingdead]

"They said the packaging police referred to was a box of plastic
sandwich bags."

How much money do we spend a year so these "cops" can run their "war on drugs"? Seems like a lot to stop a couple of kids from smoking a little pot. And those sandwich bags, oh I mean "packaging material", really is the smoking gun for this raid. Everyone knows it's highly illegal to have zip-lock bags in your pad. Well done "no education needed" police officers. Sure am glad they're taking 35% of my pay to fund stuff like this. Unbelievable.....

[Leisler]

Hey, it's the law. If the law says run nig***s out of town, the cops do it. If the law says booze is illegal, the cops do it, if tomorrow booze is legal, they do it. If the law says round up the Jews, they do it.

Cops have given up their responsibility to think and weigh their actions in ethical and moral values. Blind obedience defines one's self as a slave, or worse. But what are they going to do, quit? Where would the average cop make the money they make without having to bust hump or hustle?

< insert sound of heel click, here >

[walkingdead]

By the way, anyone know why my quotation marks are coming in as question marks? weird...

[Huck]

It is an interesting and dangerous convergence of authoritarian policies. The national predisposition against guns and drugs combine to create a situation where folks not personally affected really don't care if someone in these circumstances gets killed. It's a mulligan. The thought process probably goes something like this: I don't possess marijuana. I don't possess guns. It doesn't affect me. Wild west type stuff, brought to high tech sophistication.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Why don't you ask them, Corkoman? I'll ping some of the regulars, too.

[Liberty Al]

What if the police are telling the truth? That they raided the house, someone had a gun in their own home, so they shot him. It's unjustified homicide either way. Could they not anticipate that someone might have a gun in their own home in southern Ohio? It's not like the guy was shooting at the cops.

[Phantom Lord]

The article says they found a "small amount" of MJ. Probably enough for a joint. I bet I have more sandwhich bags in my house than these guys did. I buy them at Sams!

I would probably be tried as a top level distributor or head of a cartel if they based it on the number of plastic bags I have.

[BJungNan]

There is no reason why the police need to storm a house in the middle of the night, increasing the likelyhood that something like this will happen.

What, the man never walks out of his house, gets in his car and goes down to the local convenicence store? Of course he does, most likely every day. The police had many opportunities to apprehend this man peacefully.

They choose instead to bust in doors.

Too many have been killed like this. The practice needs to be stopped unless it can be shown that it is the safest way to apprehend someone. That will rarely be shown to be the case.

Reno raid on Waco; Police raid on this house: Its the same, only on a smaller scale.

[Protagoras]

Now you might just get killed.

The penalty for lying down with dogs is now death.