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Anti-Tax Group Makes 'Final Warning' to Federal Government
CNSNews.com ^ | November 15, 2002 | Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 11/15/2002 7:42:45 AM PST by H8DEMS

Washington (CNSNews.com) - A cross-country anti-tax rally culminated in the nation's capital Thursday, with several hundred protestors warning all branches of the federal government to "obey the Constitution, or else."

The conservatives and Libertarians attending the rally said their protest should serve as a wake-up call to lawmakers, but the Anti-Defamation League regards the protest as an "extremist" threat.

"The tax protest movement is a right-wing extremist movement," said Mark Pitcavage, director of fact finding for the ADL. "You're not talking about tax reformers here. You're talking about people who have incredible conspiracy theories about the government."

The ADL considers those who organized and attended the anti-tax rally to be such a serious threat, that the ADL included the group on its monthly calendar of "extremist events." Pitcavage said that the event's organizer - a group called "We The People Congress" - advocates an agenda that is "so far out of the mainstream" that the group has effectively disenfranchised itself from the rest of American society.

"These are people who do not think simply that taxes are too high or want tax reform," Pitcavage said. "They have convinced themselves they do not have to pay taxes and that there's a major government conspiracy designed to cover-up that fact."

Pitcavage also warned that the anti-tax movement is not confined to protest rallies.

"It's also a movement that has been linked strongly to violence; to attacks on IRS agents; to blowing up IRS offices, as well as many other crimes," he said. "There's a great deal of criminal activity associated with the movement."

'Turn back time'

A spokesman for We The People Congress dismissed the ADL's accusations as "an incredible propaganda campaign." Mike Bodine said the sole purpose of the anti-tax rally (called Freedom Drive 2002) is to restore the Constitution to what it was in 1776.

"Frankly, I don't understand how trying to uphold and defend the Constitution of this nation can be construed to be an extremist event by anybody," Bodine said. Unfortunately, we do question government," he added.

According to Bodine, his group has issued four "petitions for redress of grievances" to the federal government. Those petitions challenge the constitutional legitimacy and legality of the federal income tax; the Federal Reserve; the War Powers clause; and the USA Patriot Act.

The first petition states that there is no legal authority for the federal government to enforce the federal income tax on average Americans. He said research conducted by We The People Congress includes the sworn testimony of IRS agents and CPAs who support the group's claim.

The second petition accuses the federal government of auctioning off the U.S. Treasury to the highest bidding corporations, financiers and campaign contributors.

We The People Congress has also demanded that Congress and the president adhere to the Constitution's War Powers clause in the imminent war against Iraq. Bodine said the Constitution mandates that Congress must pass a formal declaration of war before the U.S. can commit troops to battle. A resolution, such as that recently passed by Congress, is not enough, the group insists.

"The reason that they don't make a formal declaration of war anymore, and that we haven't since World War II, is that it's very, very politically difficult to do," Bodine said. "But that's exactly why the Founding Fathers put it in there. It was supposed to be difficult to do."

Bodine said his group's final petition condemns Congress for passing the USA Patriot Act, which he said, contains language that clearly violates the Constitution. According to Bodine, the law makes it legal for law enforcement officials to disregard the "search and seizure" clause contained in the Fourth Amendment.

Armed and angry

"We're trying to give the government a warning, kind of like a final warning," said Rick Stanley, a Denver businessman and member of the Libertarian Party, who recently tried to unseat Sen. Wayne Allard (R-Colo.).

Last March, Stanley released a comprehensive list of demands, including repeal of "all unconstitutional laws" at all levels of government. "In other words, they've been given the petition for redress of grievances many times, and the bottom line is we want them to obey the Constitution...or else," he said.

Asked what "or else" means, Stanley was evasive, but he hinted at armed rebellion, mentioning a "Million Gun March" he is planning for July 4, 2003.

"We're coming [to Washington] to make sure that they [the government] comply with the Constitution and with our petition demands.

"To me, it [the Million Gun March] will be the thing that dislodges the government that has overthrown America from its perch. And what's going to happen is 'We, the people' will be running the government from that day forward."

Stanley and Bob Schulz, the latter the chairman of We The People Congress, are urging anti-tax activists to stop paying their income taxes, which both men claim they already have done.

Stanley said his message to the federal government is clear: "We're cutting off your funding. We're cutting off your money supply."

But Stanley does not believe the vast majority of Americans will join his income tax rebellion against the federal government. He expressed the need for something "bigger" -- that "something" being the "million gun" event.

"On that day, we'll be coming armed," Stanley warned. "And then we're going to have rallies at every state capital in all 50 states [happening] at the same time," he said.

Asked by CNSNews.com how he intends to deal with District of Columbia gun laws (the D.C. code says, "Carrying a handgun in the District is prohibited"), Stanley showed no concern.

"What about D.C.'s gun laws?" Stanley asked. "They're null and void. Anything that violates the U.S. Constitution -- and the Supreme Court has said it probably a thousand times -- it's null and void, as if it never existed," he said.

According to Stanley's website, the million gun march will be held only if at least one million people sign a petition guaranteeing their presence at the march.


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Mike Bodine said the sole purpose of the anti-tax rally (called Freedom Drive 2002) is to restore the Constitution to what it was in 1776.
1 posted on 11/15/2002 7:42:46 AM PST by H8DEMS
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To: H8DEMS
According to Stanley's website, the million gun march will be held only if at least one million people sign a petition guaranteeing their presence at the march.

Here's hoping a million sign up.

2 posted on 11/15/2002 7:47:58 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: H8DEMS
what it was in 1776

Why to 1492, or 10 million BC

Just goes to show you don't have to be a Constitutional Scholar to be a Constitutional Activist.

I'm sure he means well... LOL
4 posted on 11/15/2002 7:49:40 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS
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To: H8DEMS
to restore the Constitution to what it was in 1776.

Er... minor historical note... the Constitution didn't yet exist in 1776. Noble sentiments, but inaccurate numbers. (Of course, some lefty Bellisiles defenders might make that claim....)

5 posted on 11/15/2002 7:50:13 AM PST by Rytwyng
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To: H8DEMS
uh lemme see, no women's vote. slavery. no drunk driving laws... yep! that's what we need /sarcasm
6 posted on 11/15/2002 7:59:02 AM PST by camle
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To: H8DEMS
Why is the ADL painting income tax protestors as crazy right wing extremists? They got a dog in this fight?
8 posted on 11/15/2002 8:19:44 AM PST by steve50
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To: TonyRo76
1787?
I thought it was in 1783...
Maybe that was when it was written, and then ratified in 1787?

Either way, it didn't exist as THE document until it was ratified, definitely not 1776.

9 posted on 11/15/2002 8:23:07 AM PST by MrB
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To: MrB
The United States were organized in 1783 under the Articles of Confederation. These were poorly drawn and weren't effective, as became evident almost immediately, and the Constitution was subsequently drafted in convention in 1787 and ratified in 1789.
10 posted on 11/15/2002 8:32:04 AM PST by SAJ
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To: H8DEMS
Pitcavage also warned that the anti-tax movement is not confined to protest rallies. "It's also a movement that has been linked strongly to violence; to attacks on IRS agents; to blowing up IRS offices, as well as many other crimes," he said. "There's a great deal of criminal activity associated with the movement."

If that's the case, then bring the sheriff with you and start making arrests. Otherwise, you're engaging in blatant slander and someone should haul your a$$ into court.

It's pitiful how every activist, on either side, is today using the insinuation of terrorism to besmirch those with whom they disagree.

11 posted on 11/15/2002 8:33:43 AM PST by tdadams
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To: Fiddlstix
"Here's hoping a million sign up."

I'll sign. Whats Stanleys web address?

12 posted on 11/15/2002 8:41:14 AM PST by monday
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To: H8DEMS

A spokesman for We The People Congress dismissed the ADL's accusations as "an incredible propaganda campaign." Mike Bodine said the sole purpose of the anti-tax rally (called Freedom Drive 2002) is to restore the Constitution to what it was in 1776.

We were under the Articles of Confederation and the Continental Congress in 1776. The Constitution was not even drafted until 1787.

It was written to correct the problems associated with the Articles of Confederation, primary of which was its inability to provide for the payment of the Nation's Debts do to the inability to collect taxes of any kind.

James Madison, Elliots Debates Vol 3 p128:

 


"Frankly, I don't understand how trying to uphold and defend the Constitution of this nation can be construed to be an extremist event by anybody,"

It would seem their aim is as poor as their scholarship, the remedy written into the constitution was to levy and collect taxes from the citizen, with concurrent jurisdiction:

Hamilton, Federalist #34:

Madison Federalist #39:

Madison Federalist #45:


14 posted on 11/15/2002 8:49:48 AM PST by ancient_geezer
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To: HEY4QDEMS
mmmmmm...Meaning well...Isn't that what liberals do. Forget legality, forget the 16th Amendment...Let's just mean well? I think not. As odius as the Federal income tax is, there is no question about its legality. If we want to change it let's make some sensible arguements please. Change the code, or amend the Constitution.
15 posted on 11/15/2002 8:51:35 AM PST by FlaFreedom
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To: H8DEMS; Chancellor Palpatine; hchutch; general_re; PatrickHenry
A cross-country anti-tax rally culminated in the nation's capital Thursday, with several hundred protestors warning all branches of the federal government to "obey the Constitution, or else."

Translation: "Obey what we say the Constitution says, or else."

Mike Bodine said the sole purpose of the anti-tax rally (called Freedom Drive 2002) is to restore the Constitution to what it was in 1776.

There was no Constitution in 1776; there were merely the charters of the 13 colonies (which were engaged in armed revolt against the Crown that granted those charters).

Mike Bodine would be a heckuva lot more credible as a "Constitutional Scholar" if he actually knew when it was drafted and ratified.

16 posted on 11/15/2002 8:51:51 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: monday
I'll sign. Whats Stanleys web address?

http://www.stanley2002.org/releases/release3_27_02.htm

17 posted on 11/15/2002 8:55:55 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Poohbah
I'm rather curious about the "or else" part, myself. Why make veiled threats? Why not just come out and say it? It's not like there aren't plenty of ways to make a case on the merits.

Oh, wait - I forgot how much easier it is to threaten than it is to persuade. I think they can forget about a million folks attending their rally - if that's the best they can do in terms of polemic, they'll be lucky to break triple digits.

18 posted on 11/15/2002 9:05:20 AM PST by general_re
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To: general_re
Generally, folks like that sort out into a few categories.

A lovely bunch.

19 posted on 11/15/2002 9:11:34 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: H8DEMS
"On that day, we'll be coming armed," Stanley warned. "And then we're going to have rallies at every state capital in all 50 states [happening] at the same time," he said.

Why not organize a tax return burning party at every post office in the United States on April 15th? If enough people showed up and participated, the income tax and IRS could be wiped out in an instant. Take away the money and you take away their power and give it back to the people where it belongs.

IT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENTS MONEY !!!


20 posted on 11/15/2002 9:31:04 AM PST by unixfox
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