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Warning That War Could Plunge World Into Deep Recession
Independent (UK) ^ | 11-16-2002 | Andrew Gumbel

Posted on 11/15/2002 2:55:28 PM PST by blam

Warning that war could plunge world into deep recession

Cost of toppling Saddam Hussein may run into hundreds of billions of dollars and this time America will have to foot the bill itself

By Andrew Gumbel
16 November 2002

A war against Iraq could cost the United States hundreds of billions of dollars, play havoc with an already depressed domestic economy and tip the world into recession because of the adverse effect on oil prices, inflation and interest rates, an academic study has warned.

According to William Nordhaus, Sterling professor of economics at Yale University, the best-case scenario of a short, "clean" war is likely to incur costs for which no amount of increased Iraqi oil production could compensate. If the conflict becomes protracted and involves urban guerrilla fighting, the destruction of Iraq's oil fields, or the use of biological or chemical weapons, the costs of both the fighting and post-war reconstruction could multiply.

"The Bush administration has not prepared the public for the cost or the financing of what could prove to be an expensive venture,'' Professor Nordhaus said. "Perhaps the administration is fearful that a candid discussion of wartime economics will give ammunition to sceptics of the war; perhaps it worries acknowledging the costs will endanger the large future tax cuts, which are the centrepiece of its domestic policy. "None the less, the price must be paid, by raising taxes, by cutting expenditures, or by forcing the Federal Reserve do the job by raising interest rates. One way or another, Americans will pay for the war.''

Professor Nordhaus's analysis, part which was published in this week's New York Review of Books, is based on estimates from the US government as well as private research by Washington think-tanks. Although much is necessarily speculative, he quotes Keynes to say it is better to be vaguely right than precisely wrong. His research echoes a growing sense of unease in government about the military and political costs, as well as the economic fallout, of launching an invasion to topple Saddam Hussein.

Two official recent studies, one by the Democratic Party contingent of the House Budget Committee, the other by the Congressional Budget Office, both put the baseline cost of the initial military campaign at about $50bn (£31bn), a little less than the cost of the last Gulf War. That assumes a force of about 250,000 troops, which is what the latest leaks of the Pentagon's plans suggest, roughly half the number deployed in 1991.

The big difference between now and 11 years ago is that the United States will almost certainly have to foot the bill itself; in 1991, most of the effort to roll back the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait was underwritten by US allies, leaving Washington with just over $2bn to pay itself.

That $50bn does not take into account the costs of a post-war military occupation. Professor Nordhaus estimates anywhere from $75bn to $500bn (£47bn to £316bn), depending on the length and difficulty of the operation or the task of rebuilding the country and nurturing its economic development. To rebuild modestly, bringing Iraq up to the level of Iran or Egypt would cost at least $20bn ; launching an Iraqi-style Marshall Plan could cost as much as $100bn.

Professor Nordhaus noted the poor US record in standing by its postwar reconstruction promises. In Afghanistan, for example, it has spent just $10m on economic redevelopment compared with the $13bn on the bombings and Special Forces operations. But he also argued that neglect would carry its own price as a furious Middle East vents its anti-Americanism on the occupying army and on US targets around the world.

The baseline figures are a best-case scenario. A modest amount of disruption – if the Saudis refuse access to their air bases and if fighting becomes intense in the cities – could push the price of the war up to $140bn, or 1.5 per cent of US gross domestic product.

There has been much talk of renewed Iraqi oil supplies offsetting the cost of war and, to a large degree, justifying it. But Professor Nordhaus argued that the best hope, bringing Iraqi production quickly up to three million barrels a day, would yield only about $25bn a year. Most of that would be needed for food, medicine and other immediate necessities, and the rest would probably go to paying off the $300bn in unpaid claims from other countries left over from the 1991 war.

"To divert funds from vital necessities to pay the expenses of the US occupation forces would be economic and political folly," he wrote.

The effect of war on world oil prices could be devastating. George Perry, an analyst with the Brookings Institute in Washington, has drawn up three scenarios, the middle one of which suggests a tripling of prices to $75 a barrel. That would almost certainly push the world into recession.

Little of this kind of economic analysis has been debated publicly in the United States since the prospect of war against Iraq shot to the top of the Bush administration's agenda in late summer. Most talk has been about the feasibility of defeating Saddam, with some hawkish analysts suggesting superior US firepower and a diminished Iraqi military would make it a cakewalk.

Professor Nordhaus warned that even a quick military operation would have economic costs lasting years. "Although cost estimates are often ignored when war is debated," he wrote, "Most people recognise that the costs in dollars, and especially in blood, are acceptable only as long as they are low.''


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We're all gonna die.
1 posted on 11/15/2002 2:55:28 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Warning that war could plunge world into deep recessionCost of toppling Saddam Hussein may run into hundreds of billions of dollars and this time America will have to foot the bill itself ........................


NONSENSE! After we smash Saddam and his henchmen we will pump enough Iraqi oil to pay for our war. This is a given.
2 posted on 11/15/2002 2:57:57 PM PST by dennisw
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To: blam
When was the last time that a major war started a recession?

It is more likely to end one with all the ordnance and equipment replenishment contracts that the governments will have to put out.

3 posted on 11/15/2002 2:58:17 PM PST by Clive
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To: blam
LOL Blam, thanks for another "sky is falling piece". Another example of the complete and total ability to underestimate our resolve to confront this evil.
4 posted on 11/15/2002 3:00:07 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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To: blam
First it was gonna cause more terrorist attacks, then it was gonna cause 30,000 US soldiers death, now its gonna cause a depression.
5 posted on 11/15/2002 3:03:16 PM PST by Always Right
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To: dennisw
I was around when WW II started. I knew what this country was in the 30s. When 1946 came along this country was a powerhouse.

IMHO WWII took the USA from a second rate country to a world power.

People say there are no winners in a war - nonsense.

IMHO WWII made this country.

Just make sure you don't lose the war. - Tom

6 posted on 11/15/2002 3:09:55 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: blam
Yeah, right. Anybody remember what the last U.S. vs. Iraq war started? You got it -- the greatest bull market in history!
7 posted on 11/15/2002 3:10:17 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Capt. Tom
Thanks Captain. No guts... no glory.
8 posted on 11/15/2002 3:18:10 PM PST by dennisw
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To: blam
Warning That War Could Plunge World Into Deep Recession

Wonder what Chamberlain would have done if he'd understood/know the real cost
of doing nothing...
9 posted on 11/15/2002 3:35:23 PM PST by VOA
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To: blam
Some sooner than later...

;-)
10 posted on 11/15/2002 4:54:54 PM PST by DB
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To: blam
Let's send profassor northernhouse to Alaska, to dig for oil. According to this elitist, W is going to war for only 1 purpose, to get more oil. Well Profassor northernhouse, this is your chance to save humanity, GO!
11 posted on 11/15/2002 5:11:39 PM PST by desertcry
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To: Capt. Tom
I was around when WW II started. I knew what this country was in the 30s. When 1946 came along this country was a powerhouse.

That was primarily because at the end of the war, Europe was largely smoking rubble. Hmm....maybe we can learn from the past.

12 posted on 11/15/2002 5:19:53 PM PST by KarlInOhio
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To: Capt. Tom
We also got a nice economic boost from the war in Viet Nam. The people who moan about the "cost" of the war don't understand economics and how economic activity feeds upon itself to grow.
13 posted on 11/15/2002 5:40:33 PM PST by speekinout
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To: blam
I wonder what the economic analysis of waiting until Saddam nukes New York, Washington, London, and Tel Aviv looks like?
14 posted on 11/15/2002 6:39:57 PM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: blam
I've heard of bombing someone back to the stone age, but we may just end up bombing Iraq up to the stone age.
15 posted on 11/15/2002 6:44:34 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: blam
True, a war now in Iraq, if things don't go well, could have disastrous economic consequences.

But consider: it is really no secret why Sadaam is seeking nuclear weapons.

1. Saddam believes that he must control the Persian Gulf oilfields if he is to achieve hegemony over the Arab world, his central goal.

2. Saddam is serious about this. He fought what was probably the bloodiest war of the second half of the twentieth century to conquer the Iranian oilfields. He invaded Kuwait to control the Kuwaiti oilfields. He believes he made a mistake in the Gulf War by not driving on to take control of the Saudi oilfields.

3. Saddam believes that nuclear weapons will make it too costly for anyone to deter him from succeeding in his next grab for the oilfields.

4. The Mullahs are already working to achieve nuclear weapons, partly in fear of Saddam. If he gets them, look for the Saudis to shave a few bucks off the cathouse budget of a few minor princelings and buy them some nukes too.

A war now in Iraq might on a worst-case scenario bring on global depression.

A nuclear-armed Saddam making another play for control of the oilfields will bring on global depression on a best-case scenario. If there is a best-case scenario when the probable options are (a) Saddam succeeds in gaining control of a huge percentage of the oil resources of a petroleum-driven world economy; or (b) regional nuclear war breaks out between Saddam and the Mullahs or possibly the Saudis.

Remember that Saddam is the guy who set the Kuwaiti oilfields on fire out of spite when he lost the Gulf War. How do you suppose a few nukes scattered about the Saudi oilfields would affect our retirement accounts, hmm?

There isn't any realistic way to prevent Saddam from acquiring nuclear weapons except to invade now and dismantle his Ba'athist (Arab Nazi) regime. Once he has nuclear weapons, we have to fall back on deterrence, and it is really rather difficult to deter a person who thinks he is undeterrable.

Most of the information in this post is from Kenneth Pollack's The Threatening Storm, which everyone should read.

17 posted on 11/15/2002 7:17:17 PM PST by Southern Federalist
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To: Quixdraw4440
blam needs to find a building to jump from and get it over with.

You don't know the Freeper you're trashing here, dude. He posted the story; he didn't write it.

18 posted on 11/15/2002 7:20:56 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: blam
he quotes Keynes to say it is better to be vaguely right than precisely wrong.

That is when I stopped reading. Listening to one idiot is crazy. Listening to one idiot quote another idiot in support of his argument is INSANE! fsf

19 posted on 11/15/2002 7:25:04 PM PST by Free State Four
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To: Dog Gone
You don't know the Freeper you're trashing here, dude. He posted the story; he didn't write it.

Yes, by all means. My #19 post is in disagreement with the article, not with blam. He is a good, honest, hard working Freeper. fsf

20 posted on 11/15/2002 7:30:20 PM PST by Free State Four
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