Mystery of the Eltanin Antenna

Unknown Country ^ | 21-Jul-2001 | WHITLEY STRIEBER

[Swordmaker]

My original point was that 400 mph through 'water' seemed too high... Think so?

Don't know... perhaps.

There are too many unknowns with the antenna. The terminal velocity in water would be dependent on several factors:

1: initial velocity of the antenna on impacting the water.
2: Mass of the antenna.
3: Presenting cross section of the antenna related to orientation of fall.
4: The viscosity of the seawater.
5: Volume of the antenna (volume and mass may result in a specific density that is less than that of seawater giving the object bouyancy.)
6: Temperature of the various layers of seawater and any rising or falling currents.
It is possible for an object that is sufficiently heavy AND sufficiently thin (streamlined) to reach a very high velocity in almost any fluid (for this purpose air and water are both fluids)... but we need to know this and other information to calculate a terminal velocity.

[Rudder]

That sounds quite a bit faster than the free fall rate through the air (terminal velocity

Yes it does and it is faster in water. Check out Bentley's Thresher Disaster. There are abundant data which show that some descent rates exceed 400-600 mph.

Simply amazing, ain't it?

[GhostSoldier]

Simply amazing, ain't it?

I'm floored. I'll check out the thresher.....

[GhostSoldier]

Thanks Swordmaker....

Didn't know I was talking to somebody so edumacated.

[Kevin Curry]

Throughout the Cold War the US Navy scattered thousands of listening devices across the ocean floor to help track Soviet submarines. The Soviets surely did the same thing. I would believe this is a relic of the Cold War before I would believe it was anything more strange than that.

[Walkingfeather]

I agree... I don't think we had the technology back then to be shooting pictures at that depth. Most of our submersible technology cam out of woodhole inst. and there wasn't much funding for that back in that day. My other thought was.... how did they find it in the first place? Sonar contact? I don't think they were just taking pictures for fun on the bottom of the artic and out of nowhere they find this. I mean what was the motivation for taking a picture in the first place?

[Lancey Howard]

I think we've located Bikini Bottom.
Paging SpongeBob SquarePants.... Paging Mr. SpongeBob SquarePants.

[_Jim]

Did some boat lose it's anchor?

[_Jim]

Interesting.... it would have to be pretty massive (low frequency), however, to propagate an EM wave through saltwater.

Dream on ... this isn't actually what this 'thing' does - EVEN if it *does* physically exist in the form the pics show!

Think infrastructure man! Where's the beast of a transmitter to go with it, WHAT supplies the power -

- and here's the show stopper:

If this thing REALLY DID radiate RF (EM wave) energy, DON'T YOU THINK that someone would have PICKED UP A SIGNAL BY NOW, a signal that wasn't a Navy VLF transmission to sub, wasn't a 10 KHz DECCA transmission, wasn't a 60 KHz WWVB transmission, wasn't a 100 KHz LORAN-C transmission, wasn't a 160 - 190 KHz Lowfer transmission, (and on and on and on) ...

[_Jim]

after which comes the emergency action message.

Well, usually this was part of the preamble before the actual message too:

"... DO NOT ANSWER ... MESSAGE FOLLOWS ... "

[GATOR NAVY]

Good questions-not that I needed prodding before, but they just raise the B.S. factor.

[fnord]

Mr. Cathie considers 144, the harmonic recriprocal of the speed of light, to be an important measure of the earth's grid because it divides into the planet's 21,600 minutes of arc exactly 150 times.

well, I consider 150 to be special because it divides into 21,600 exactly(!) 144 times. Or was it 3600 6 times. Or maybe it was 6*6*6*100! (a centibeast?) And what the hell is a harmonic reciprocal?

Wow, isn't earth special? </sarcasm> ... (There are 21,600 minutes in every circle)

shhhhh, don't give it away to the rubes!

[Minutemen]

Bump

[Eaker]

And what the hell is a harmonic reciprocal?

This should clear things up a bit!!!

Harmonic Reciprocal Mean Curvature Surfaces which are theta-isothermic

What is "theta-isothermic"? As one can define isothermic just by viewing on the functions of the fundamental forms - the Hopf differential is real with respect to a proper conformal coordinate - we define a surface to be theta-isothermic if the imaginary part of the Hopf differential is constant (theta) with respect to a proper conformal coordinate. However, neither is theta an invariant of the surface nor is the constant of the imaginary part of the Hopf differential a geomertrical property that is really understood up to now.

On the other side - even this is very new and not yet understood - for these "generalization" of isothermic surfaces there exist an involution, that maps a theta-isothermic surface (up to a scaling of the ambiente space) into an isothermic surface in either S3 or H3 and vice versa.

The Source

[fnord]

thanks, but I haven't had enough to drink to understand that yet

[Eaker]

There ain't enough alcohol in the world!!

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[LexBaird]

Somehow, your screen nick inspires a vague sense of fear and loathing in me... never mind, I forgot what I was saying.

Ignore the alien antenna (fnord). Ignore the alien antenna (fnord). There are no such things as aliens (fnord).

[fnord]

heh heh

f n o r d

nothing to see here, move along

[SunkenCiv]

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